Coldheartedtruth

$1.8T sitting on the sidelines.

good.

let it sit there until the asswipe-in-chief is out of office.

since he's the single biggest impediment to economic growth in this country, it's only logical that the cash stay safely out of his reach until he gets sent back to his rezko mansion.

The only logical conclusion that explains why businesses are holding all that money is that they hate black people.

The only logical conclusion that explains why businesses are holding all that money is that they hate black people.

sigh..

The only logical conclusion that explains why businesses are holding all that money is that they hate black people.

LOL!

Too bad JBD hasn't read this yet, it could be another "teachable moment" how to destroy an economy.
These people don't want the economy to turn it'll interfere with their nanny state plans.

Jawn Kerry triumphs again!

A bill authored by Sens. John Kerry, a Democrat from Massachusetts, and Joseph Lieberman, an independent from Connecticut, would have required reduced carbon pollution by 17% from 2005 levels in 2020. It would have put a price on emissions from electric utilities, transportation and manufacturing. But even a scaled-back version of that bill didn't have enough support to make it through the Senate.

The only logical conclusion that explains why businesses are holding all that money is that they hate black people.

Lmao.

...The big question is whether companies will stop hoarding cash and start spending more to expand their operations and hire freely. They're likely to do that only after they feel confident that demand from their customers will justify the cost of new hires...Steven Ricchiuto, chief economist at Mizuho Securities, said a manufacturing recovery can't lead to strong and sustained economic growth unless Americans are willing to shop more. Spending by consumers accounts for 70 percent of U.S. economic activity.

"The idea was that the manufacturers would grow, and then we'd get new jobs and the consumer would take over," he says. "But consumer spending has been exceptionally weak."

Not a single mention of taxes or regulation or Obama's policies. I guess you have to resort to trash sources like the New York Post for that sort of thing.

Too bad JBD hasn't read this yet, it could be another "teachable moment" how to destroy an economy.

you racist bastard!

And when so many of our children still attend crumbling schools, and a black child is still far more likely to go to prison than a white child, I think the founders of this organization would agree that our work is not yet done. (Applause.)

When African American communities are still hit harder than just about anywhere by this economic downturn, and so many families are just barely scraping by, I think the founders would tell us that now is not the time to rest on our laurels.

When stubborn inequalities still persist — in education and health, in income and wealth — I think those founders would urge us to increase our intensity, and to increase our discipline and our focus and keep fighting for a better future for our children and our grandchildren. (Applause.)

those comments were chock full of issues regarding nutrition.

I know that's from yesterday - but...

...that was my point with the one who seems to have had a "teachable moment"...

Mrs. hippo hips was doing everything she could to stir the pot - and it worked.

43 Arrested In SD Drug Cartel Sting

May as well just stop all pretense - open the borders...

Wow.

Worst president in record time.

Miserable failure that will haunt the democrats for decades to come.

Mark my words.

Worst president in record time.

Odd that the president you claim as the worst has the same approval rating at this point as Clinton, Reagan and i am sure many others. The worst president ever is the one who recently left office with a 25% approval rating.

What matters (and really the only thing that matters) is the opinions of those people who actually hold the purse strings of the private sector. If they are not convinced that more government spending is the key to long term economic growth then they will not invest in their business or in new hiring....

This still seems absurd. I realize there are a lot of half-bright executives out there, yet could even they have such a tenuous grasp of business reality as to predicate business decisions on their political convictions regarding government spending?

Then again these are the same sorts who make a career from pushing powerpoint slides so anything is possible.

nor can they demand that private industry invest capital just because chapter 4 of "Keynesian Economics for Dummies" says that they should.

Yet this kind of initiative will result in just that:

President Obama on Friday called on Congress to do more to help small businesses, which he called America's "most important engine for hiring and for growth."

The president said he wanted the Senate to pass a bill that would provide tax cuts for small businesses and increase lending to those businesses. A small business jobs bill containing these measures could come up for final vote in the Senate in the next few days.

The bill would set up a $30 billion fund to help community banks offer loans to small companies -- a provision that has won bipartisan support, help states encourage more private sector loans to small firms in hard-hit industries like manufacturing and construction, expand small business initiatives and more than double the size of loans available to small business owners

Lets review the rights focus over the last year.

You're joking - right?

We've known for years that ACORN is a scam.

Wright is a marxist - we didn't know about him until we found out he was dramaObama's mentor.

We could care less about the NAACP - they're the ones who injected themselves "all of the sudden" into the mix.

Sherrod was dumped by the NAACP - not us.

Van Jones, lmao! He's a damn truther, lol!

'nuff said.

"car (sic) to add a few others and groups to your short list? "

Sure.....you and the tampa intellect....

LOL

This BS is outta control......I believe we all help fan the fires. This crap, imho, is not funny anymore.....or maybe should have said ever....

Of course it's out of control.

And, just as I said the other day - some wacked out creep from the right or from the left is bound to do something stupid.

You (not you literally) can't keep taunting people, and then act surprised when they fight back - with whatever tools they can find...

...then, you throw a few crazies into the mix - nothing but a brew for trouble.

It's not funny - it's not cute - no matter how "cute" anyone thinks they're being - it isn't cute.

You all know I love Joe ....
But his thunder was stolen by Nancy P., she was talking about extending unemployment benefits to 126 weeks.

IF, she had faith in the ONE, she should not be extending these payouts to 2.5 years.

"It creates jobs faster than almost any other initiative you can name."

We've known for years that ACORN is a scam."

Who's "we"??? What scam did they perpetrate????

Van Jones is a truther? Dayum, maybe that is an opinion, but, I doubt is the reality of the situation......My opinion is he was a target, was fired on, and BHO caved....I am not sure what is worse.

"It's not funny - it's not cute - no matter how "cute" anyone thinks they're being - it isn't cute. "

We agree violently again!!! Now, lets see if WE (meaning us) can do something about it, even it is itsy bitsy steps. I am not sure how to do it, but I am sure you will help me out.....LOL.

May as well just stop all pretense - open the borders...

Forgive me Lord but that is funny.


SOB Ried, the one bill that I believed in that Obama was doing has been dropped.

The National Energy Act, we need this more now then at any other time.

Here's the piece about Grayson's punch in the nose.....Hard to believe the guy who started it now says it was a joke!!!!

Link to the latest! Sick, just friggin sick.

"The perfect is the enemy of the good" Axelrod

Only problem it was Voltaire who said it and BrokenRod should have given credit to the true author.

New estimates from the White House on Friday predict the budget deficit will reach a record $1.47 trillion this year

the news gets better, OMB, predicts the following:

The Office of Management and Budget report has ominous news for President Barack Obama should he seek re-election in 2012 -- a still-high unemployment rate of 8.1 percent. That would be well above normal, which is closer to a rate of 5.5 percent to 6 percent."

So for most of the Bush years we had "abnormally" low unemployment.

Hmmmmmmmmmmm.

Here's the piece about Grayson's punch in the nose.....Hard to believe the guy who started it now says it was a joke!!!!

Link to the latest! Sick, just friggin sick.

I like Grayson......if more dems were like him, i might even be able to call myself a Dem and respect them as a party.

Van Jones is a truther? Dayum, maybe that is an opinion, but, I doubt is the reality of the situation......

I don't think you're qualified to determine what is fact and what is opinion Mumbles. I'll give you a hint. Facts are still facts whether you like them or not.

Green jobs czar signed 'truther' statement in 2004

Mr. Jones signed a statement for 911Truth.org in 2004 demanding an investigation into what the Bush Administration may have done that “deliberately allowed 9/11 to happen, perhaps as a pretext for war.”

His name is listed with 99 other prominent signatories supporting such an investigation on the 911Truth.org website, including Code Pink co-founders Medea Benjamin and Jodi Evans, comedienne Janeane Garofalo, Democratic Rep. Cynthia McKinney of Georgia and others. He's identified as the executive director for the Ella Baker Center for Human Rights on the statement, which he founded before going to the White House. The statement is available here. Mr. Jones is number 46.

I like Grayson......if more dems were like him, i might even be able to call myself a Dem and respect them as a party.

Don't get use to him. He's not going to be around Congress much longer.

"I like Grayson......if more dems were like him, i might even be able to call myself a Dem and respect them as a party. "
.
He is an interesting character to watch. Never one to mince words or not trying to do the right thing, the guy who he replaced, Ric Keller, did ZERO for his district and never, ever was a leader. Orlando has done real well with Alan....he's proactive and not one to back down. Hope those voters in the 8th district realize what a gem he is.

Now my asshole representive, Bill Posey, his total amount of legislation was he was the sponsor of a birth certificate amendment. In the mean time, they are about ready to close down the shuttle and this asshole is worried about birth certificates. Yep, you get what you vote for.

Don't get use to him. He's not going to be around Congress much longer. "


Sure sense.....now if you insert the name Rubio....I'm with ya!!!


Chuckle.

WW, you gave a list of Conservative targets, do you have a list of Progressive doing the same?

Unemployment Benefits could have passed with at least 75-80 votes in the US Senate if the Dems would have kept their PAYGO promise.

PAYGO had to just GO.

Election 2012 if Obama is right on the US Economy, four years after he took office unemployment will be at 8 percent.

"I don't think you're qualified to determine what is fact and what is opinion Mumbles."


I sure the hell know what a fact is rather than your BS opinions you constantly spew.

Yep, he signed it....Yep, he changed his mind. Something you do not how to do. LOL

"In 2009, Van Jones, a former advisor to President Obama, said he hadn't fully reviewed the statement before he signed and that the petition did not reflect his views "now or ever"

Yep sense....it is more than an opinion. Too bad the FACTS outshine your stupidity.

What do you believe, are will still in recession?

or are we in, as I believe, the 13 month of the Obama recovery.

Before you answer, think of what you have been hearing about a double dip recession.

Obama's current Misery Index is higher then any year under "W".

Yep.

Unemployment under W vs O.

2001 4.76 Bush, G.W.
2002 5.78
2003 5.99
2004 5.53
2005 5.08
2006 4.63
2007 4.61
2008 5.76
2009 9.26 Obama

Miseryindex.us

The good news is that at the best by Obama's best case scenario is that at the end of his only term it will be at or above 8%.

More proof that WATTSUPWITHTHAT is a fraud, as you are!! Looks like July will be another record month for world temps....IMHO....

"In 2009, Van Jones, a former advisor to President Obama, said he hadn't fully reviewed the statement before he signed and that the petition did not reflect his views "now or ever"

You mean after it came to light that he was a truthers.

Let's see who to believe. His verified signature on a petition demanding the "truth" or his ass-saving statement after it became an embarrassment to him and the administration.

I'll take door one Alex.

ah, asshole from kansas....what was the rate in January 2009???? BTW, jagoff, I do know the answer....let's see you be honest for once...

Do you really think everyone is as stupid as you?

CHUCKLE!!!!

Sure sense.....now if you insert the name Rubio....I'm with ya!!!

Grayson loses in a threortical match up with Ted Bundy.

"You mean after it came to light that he was a truthers. "

In other words, you offer more opinion. Jones refuted what he signed. Was he stupid to sign it....yes....is he entitled to change his mind....yes.. was he railroaded by assholes like you...yes!!!...but, thanx again for only proving you are the dopiest poster on this board by defending the indefensible. You, again, have nothing....but, thanx for playing!

what was the rate in January 2009????" opium

I think you are not going to like my answer.


The unemployment rate in January 2009 was

7.70 percent.

Next?

In other words, you offer more opinion. Jones refuted what he signed. Was he stupid to sign it

But he did sign it and if he reputiated it before he was appointed you may have a point. But he didn't, so any statment he makes now is not credible.

Signing something you have not read is at a minimum a very stupid act.

Grayson loses in a threortical (sic) match up with Ted Bundy. "

Gee, now that is sure funny....especially knowing that your limit of knowledge most likely stops at Al Bundy...theoretical of course. LOL

Chuckle

Opium, given that I am not as smart as you about economic matters, please tell us your point of singling out that month?

I check back, I have to go pick some peaches for desert later tonight.

"But he did sign it and if he reputiated it before he was appointed you may have a point. But he didn't, so any statment he makes now is not credi"

Again, strawman opinion. Unless you have a link to a credible source that proves your pooint, you have nothing. Such a surprise for you.

"I am not as smart as" a brick


Yep, I agree with that!!!

LOL

Gee, now that is sure funny....especially knowing that your limit of knowledge most likely stops at Al Bundy...theoretical of course. LOL

Since you obviously don't know how Ted Bundy was you obviously didn't get the joke.

Your limited knowledge and ignorance is astounding.

By the way, did I mention you're an idiot?

7.70 percent."

Yep, that's the answer.....cannot understand why you were trying to prove 9.6% was a subset of 5.7% the previous year... Oh, I just figured it out again, you are an unadulterated asshole..Sorry for trying to converse with you.

"Since you obviously don't know how Ted Bundy was you obviously didn't get the joke."

LOLOLOLOLO!!!


Really, you really are dumber than oiled beach sand....you and a joke are oxymorons....heavy on the moron. But, thanx for trying sense....you strike out again, and again, and again....

Again, strawman(sic) opinion. Unless you have a link to a credible source that proves your pooint(sic), you have nothing. Such a surprise for you.

If you cannot grasp simple logic from published facts it's really not task to educate you.

please tell us your point of singling out that month?


No response

Gee, now that is sure funny....especially knowing that your limit of knowledge most likely stops at Al Bundy...theoretical of course. LOL

Since you obviously don't know who Ted Bundy was you obviously didn't get the joke.

Your limited knowledge and ignorance is astounding.

By the way, did I mention you're an idiot?

BTW sense.....I apologize..... I had no clue "how Ted Bundy was"!!! And you know what, I couldn't care less!!!


BIG BIG CHUCKLE!!!

Yep, that same guy who wrote that GW piece last week.....LOL

No response


Dayum....it's really tuff to figure out who is the biggest asshole on this board....figure it out Farmer, you got nothing else to do!!


LOL

from published facts it's really not task to educate you."

Well, let's share the links proving your point....

Chuckle

Moving over opium, let us look into the history of Van Jones, a devoted communist.

He was hired/fired by Obama.

He was hired to move the USA to a green economy.

Obama told us this job was vitally important to his agenda,OK, I believe him.

So, by name who holds this vitally important job today?

Really, you really are dumber than oiled beach sand....you and a joke are oxymorons(sic)....heavy on the moron. But, thanx(sic) for trying sense....you strike out again, and again, and again....

Have you never heard the proverb about throwing stones in glass houses? You are one pathetic idiot Mumbles.

By the way, did I mention you're an idiot?"

Yes, you have, more than once!! But, who's counting.


LOLOL

Yes, you have, more than once!! But, who's counting.

It just never can be said enought about you Mumbles.

it's really tuff to figure out who is the biggest asshole on this board

I am not interest in playing, I am however wondering why you can't/will not tell us what your point was in picking Jan 2009 Unemployment rate.

I am not going assume why, it would be nice if you honestly responded.

Have you never heard the proverb about throwing stones in glass houses?"

Perfect....when all else fails, lets start quoting useless proverbs. Why don't you find a bible cite to back your inanity up....

Dayum....start your victory keyboard dance.....your dogs must find you amusing. LOL

"in picking Jan 2009 Unemployment rate"

You are actually winning tonight in proving my tenet...friggin troll jagoff

CS, I understand if you don't get involved, however, can you give your opinion why Opium wanted Jan. 2009 unemployment figure?

Thanks in advance for your opinion.

Scotty...there is no intellegent life here.....please, get me off this board!!!

Poof....have a nice evening!

Well, let's share the links proving your point....

Like I said, if you're too stupid to educate yourself then it's really not my job to force feed you.

The point was already made. You couldn't rebut it. So all you have is pathetic demands about proving a point already made and is already general knowledge.

You're very much like Cowens who demands proof that water is wet or that the sun rises in the east.

CS, I understand if you don't get involved, however, can you give your opinion why Opium wanted Jan. 2009 unemployment figure?

See above.

Poof....have a nice evening!

I think he's running away. Maybe he'll stay away.

The unemployment rate in January 2009 was

7.70 percent.

I answered his question with a fact.

It really upset him and sent him into a boob and weave avoidance rant.


CS, thanks for pointing out why Opium can't be honest.

" however, can you give your opinion why Opium wanted Jan. 2009 unemployment figure?"

Isn't it obvious? Bush was in office in Jan 2009, and incidentally the 2009 budget was the final Bush budget.

The first writer - I didn't note who it was - was proposing that unemployment under Bush was uniformly under 6%, and therefore the 9%+ unemployment rates arise from Obama's policies. The respondent referred to a single fact (that unemployment in Jan 2009 was already swinging higher) which conclusively refuted him.

Jobless claims spike 37,000, unexpectedly as this economy continues to slide backwards.

Is it really sliding backwards?

"Two weeks ago, claims plummeted by 29,000 to 429,000, the sharpest drop since February and the lowest level since August 2008."

"Requests for unemployment insurance fell steadily last year from their peak of 651,000, reached in March 2009. But they remained stuck near 450,000 this year until last week's sharp drop."

Ahead of the Bell: Jobless claims

How Will Allen Heal This Country?

Love him.

How Will Allen Heal This Country?
Love him.

It's almost certian he'll take Klein's seat (eventhought it's in Mumbles' neck of the woods).

This man could be president.

Isn't it obvious? Bush was in office in Jan 2009, and incidentally the 2009 budget was the final Bush budget.

It's as obvious as it is irrelevant. While Bush was technically in office for the first part of January Obama was already president-elect for nearly two months and Obama was president by the end of January.

There is a month lag in unemployment which means businesses begin shedding jobs the moment Obama was elected.

Progressives and the Declaration of Independence

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of those ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation of such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

This is a lot of trouble for a Progressive; not only do rights come from a higher Authority, but they are unalienable! Government has only the power that the governed consent to provide it! And if the government isn't doing as it ought, the people can change it or toss it. Progressives who know what is good for the citizens and wish to use government power to make sure they get it whether or not it's wanted can't deal with that; they have to dismiss it.

But the Declaration of Independence by the Continental Congress is the legal foundation for the Constitution that followed; subjects of King George lacked authority and jurisdiction to adopt a constitution. The Declaration was necessary to separate the Continental Congress and the United States from King George. Without it, they were only rebellious subjects. That is why it was done in God's name; His Authority was required to overrule the King's. The Declaration is the clear statement by the Founders of the principles they built upon. When Progressives dismiss it, they are also providing a clear statement of their own principles.

That's a basic element of political freedom. If a citizen has unalienable rights because they are conferred by God, no politician can deprive him of them. If the citizen's rights were conferred by men, then men can deprive him of them. That is what Progressives choose to believe; their view of freedom says it is backed only by politician's promises.

Filed Under:CH debates reality.

For some time now I have argued that one of the major problems with the Obama administration phony conservatives is their hard-line devotion to theoretical Keynesian REAGAN economic policies at the expense of any common sense ability to simply react to the conditions put out in front of them.

YOUR WAY DON'T WORK!
It will never trickle down!

It's as obvious as it is irrelevant. While Bush was technically in office for the first part of January Obama was already president-elect for nearly two months and Obama was president by the end of January.

There is a month lag in unemployment which means businesses begin shedding jobs the moment Obama was elected.

It is hard to believe you could get more pathetic everyday........but you do. I always thought balls was at the front of partisan blindness line, but he is surely 2nd behind you.

It is hard to believe you could get more pathetic everyday........but you do. I always thought balls was at the front of partisan blindness line, but he is surely 2nd behind you.

As you are first in the ad hominem line. Do you ever do anything other than insult people?

Filed Under:Common insane thinking.

There is a month lag in unemployment which means businesses begin shedding jobs the moment Obama was elected.

Economic activity is not a political process.
Companies hire when the DEMAND calls for it. The DEMAND was falling when Obama took office because of the collapse of the Bush Bubble in housing.
Economic growth is not dependent on tax breaks (supply side)for the rich and corporations.
As DEMAND rises, companies will hire. That is why Krugman was right saying the Obama stimulus wasn't big enough.

Why do you keep offering, as a solution, the same failed (supply side) policy that got us into this mess in the first place?

YOUR WAY DON'T WORK!

YOUR WAY DON'T WORK!
It will never trickle down!

Yes it does!

Economic activity is not a political process.

you might want to share that little nugget of wisdom with your president, since he seems to be politicizing that, and everything else, including the color of one's skin.

Lmao -

Where the JournoLists Roam (and Moan)

Liberal bloggers sulk at this year's NUTroots Nation gathering.

you might want to share that little nugget of wisdom with your president, since he seems to be politicizing that, and everything else, including the color of one's skin.

In the words of Rev. Manning -

Boom Shakalaka!

Economic growth is not dependent on tax breaks (supply side)for the rich and corporations.

Personally, I can't wait for 12/31/10!

While, I'm unhappy conservatives will be hit also - I'm more than happy that liberals will see their taxes increase!

In the infamous words of Fritz -

"Look at them, we're going to tax their asses off"...

...seriously, dramaObama voters - isn't there another country which would suit you better?

I'm not saying - go - just - "consider" it, okay?

So opium wanted the last month of Bush (7.7%), instead of the whole year.

Ok, so with that logic I should have used ZerO's highest month of Unemployment which so far I think is 10.5%.

I did not do that because it would be cherry picking.

IF (yes big if), tax cuts don't encourage spending then why do states at least in my area do the following.

Tax holiday - That is when a state/city does not collect taxes on specific purchase.

It is hard to believe you could get more pathetic everyday........but you do. I always thought balls was at the front of partisan blindness line, but he is surely 2nd behind you.

Nailed the idiot!

He's hurt and upset that no one but his groupie takes him seriously.

Ridicule is all he deserves.

Good one.

ZerO's radio address today gave us the continuing bad news, right out of this horses ass.

He let the nation know that the economy will suck for the entire length of his only term.

He has lost hope in his change.

He's hurt and upset that no one but his groupie takes him seriously.

Rich.

Nope, no racism here.

Dear Dems, get your guys under control.

In the city where Martin Luther King Jr. was assassinated, a once-unbeatable former mayor wants the Democratic congressional primary to be a referendum on race.

Willie Herenton is accusing white two-term incumbent U.S. Rep. Steve Cohen of "trying to act black." He tells voters in this majority-black city that they "need to come off that Cohen plantation and get on the Herenton freedom train."

He let the nation know that the economy will suck for the entire length of his only term.

He doesn't have the nerve to admit his role in the "failed economic policies" of the past...

...I imagine most everyone laughed at his "address" - I know I did.

Success!

mmm, mmm, mmm

Remember when reading a post by a liberal what the RULES require they do, I give the last hp/ww posts a 5 out of ten points possible on the saul aslinsky scale.

Also, recall that when the economic news is good push the switch up and bathe in the light of the ONE and when the economic news is bad push the switch down and go into the darkness of the land of HATE Bush.

:-)

He doesn't have the nerve to admit his role in the "failed economic policies"

He can't admit what he does not understand, take a trip (acid/LSD?PCP) into liberal land, no wait, Cocaine was Zero's preferred drug of choice.

So, now that we are in liberal land he and his bots can not see what they have done to the economy.

Therefor they have nothing to admit to, in their view the work off of the belief and feelings of the moment.

Want an example of a question that I posed right after I heard the make believe Obamabot term of a "saved job".

I have asked liberals here to tell us what index tracks that Obamalot term.

Not one taker.

I went out and tried to find it for my self, I looked at the BLS info and found that they have reacted to the term by issuing a statement that they can not track it and will not attempt to do so.

Success!

Yep, it is working as planned. Force the Private Insurance companies out of business and increase the demand on working Omericans to pay the tab.


Page two:

The Bond market was rocked this week after the Major Rating Companies on advise of their lawyers stopped rating some new bond issues in direct response to the new Obama banking law.

In response the Obama administration after creating the problem issues a ruling that the Rating companies will be exempt from the new law for 6 months while team Obama can fix what they broke.

As DEMAND rises, companies will hire. That is why Krugman was right saying the Obama stimulus wasn't big enough.

Government spending is like eating cotton candy. At first it tastes good but if you eat too much of it you'll get sick.

Spending billions and billions of dollars to pay off your union cronies did not bend the demand curve what makes you thing spending trillions and trillions dollars will.

Krugman severely overestimates the efficiency and value of government spending and seriously underestimates the drag of a massive debt on the economy.

He's hurt and upset that no one but his groupie takes him seriously.

Hardly, but I do find this obsession over me to be a fascinating study in social pathology.

The ideas put forward by Republican leaders to create jobs are not new. They are the same policies that led us into this recession. They won't create jobs; they will kill jobs. They will not reduce our deficit; they will add $1 trillion to our deficit. They will take us backward at a time when we need to keep America moving forward.

Unvarnished truth, something the wingnuts hate on C.H.T.

There is a month lag in unemployment which means businesses begin shedding jobs the moment Obama was elected.

Not the financial collapse, not the howsing bubble, not plummeting stock markets, not depressed corporate earnings, but "the moment Obama was elected" - that's your thesis?

Does it occur to you that cause and effect are reversed in your scenario? The economy collapsed, and Obama was elected, for many of the same reasons.

Here is what I posted.

Unemployment under W vs O.

2001 4.76 Bush, G.W.
2002 5.78
2003 5.99
2004 5.53
2005 5.08
2006 4.63
2007 4.61
2008 5.76
2009 9.26 Obama

Miseryindex.us

The good news is that at the best by Obama's best case scenario is that at the end of his only term it will be at or above 8%.
07/23/10 @ 19:20

Here are opium's response (he is just following the liberal RULES) :

"....cannot understand why you were trying to prove 9.6% was a subset of 5.7% the previous year... "


You will note, I did not post 9.6% in my data, he did, and in doing so is inaccurate.

CS, you told me he was shifty.

I don't know where I heard this line that explains Obamanomics.


"Trickle up Poverty"

OK, I know this is going to be nearly impossible to do given the RULES that guide the left that post here.

However I am willing to try, Obama has admitted that the economy as it is will suck for the remaining months of his term.

""It took nearly a decade of failed economic policies to create this mess, and it will take years to fully repair the damage," Obama said in his weekly radio and Internet address. "But I am confident that we are finally headed in the right direction. We are moving forward. And what we can't afford right now is to go back to the same ideas that created this mess in the first place."

Does he mean that all of the Bush Tax Cuts will be left to expire, the much used line from the left is "tax cuts don't/didn't work"?


If he means that some of the Bush tax cuts for some income levels did work, then he has repeated a task he does well, painted himself into a corner.

no one

That would mean that if just one person, oh let's say, me, takes CS seriously that would again make mr. Ineveruseabsolutes, well, wrong, again.

Unvarnished truth, something the wingnuts hate on C.H.T.

That's very funny Halfwit. What you call unvarnished truth is really Krugman's bias opinion and that man is always wrong.

CS, you told me he was shifty.

Never trust Mumbles to debate you honestly. His dishonesty is only exceeded by his ignorance and stupidity.

Does it occur to you that cause and effect are reversed in your scenario? The economy collapsed, and Obama was elected, for many of the same reasons.

Nope, it's quite possible we would have weather a mild financial panic if McCain was elected instead of Obama. As it was, businesses saw the election of a liberal community organizer who was hostile to capitalism in general and businesses in particular. So they started doing the prudent thing. Cut cost and limit operations to save money for the bad times that were coming.

As it was, businesses saw the election of a liberal community organizer who was hostile to capitalism in general and businesses in particular.

Dont let facts get in your way, you pathetic idiot.. The business crowd supported Obama over McCain.

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/sectorallc.php?cycle=2008

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contriball.php?cycle=2008

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/indusall.php?cycle=2008

Filed Under:Common Blind Faith in a Failed Reagan Philosophy.

Krugman severely overestimates the efficiency and value of government spending and seriously underestimates the drag of a massive debt on the economy.

Bull$hit! Krugman said we didn't spend enough for the stimulus. Government spending creates jobs directly. Even government workers are consumers. They spend their earnings.
Why weren't you phony fiscal conservatives bitching about the debt when BushCo Inc cut taxes for the rich when WE have 2 wars to pay for?

Where are all them jobs from Bush's massive DEBT CREATING huge tax breaks for "those who create jobs" at?

Your opinions don't match reality.

YOUR WAY DON'T WORK!

CS, ette and I have to apologize for those gapping wounds we have opened and for pumping air across those raw nerves that have been exposed on the Obamabots.


Question for the Obamabots.

Is the economy were you expected it to be under Dear Leader?

You may wish to refer to your RULES before forming a response, I don't really expect an answer.

The business crowd supported Obama over McCain.

LOL I guess you technically can considered Harvard a business but the University of California is a state supports school.

Using business contributions to measure businesses attitude toward Obama is a rather dicey proposition.

It does prove one thing however, the Democrats have become the party of the ruling class and extortion money is the price one pays to stay in business.

LOL I guess you technically can considered Harvard a business but the University of California is a state *supported school.

Little quick on the typing.

Bull$hit! Krugman said we didn't spend enough for the stimulus. Government spending creates jobs directly.

Yes, I know. Krugman was wrong and is still wrong.

Even government workers are consumers. They spend their earnings.

There is no proof the government workers behave any differently that any other consumer with a job. If times are uncertain then they will save rather than spend. In fact, if they know the job is temporary, they are more likely to save than spend since they know they will be out of a job. So no matter how much money is spent by the government aggregate demand does not increase.

It's lose, lose. The only winners are Obama's fat cat union cronies.

Why weren't you phony fiscal conservatives bitching about the debt when BushCo Inc cut taxes for the rich when WE have 2 wars to pay for?

Revenue actually increase (an inconvenient fact) and the debt was manageable. That is not the case today under Obama. When you talk about debt increases under Bush you're talking in the billions. When you're talking about debt increases under Obama you're talking in the trillions that's a thousand fold increase.

Where are all them jobs from Bush's massive DEBT CREATING huge tax breaks for "those who create jobs" at?

Obama lost them.

YOUR WAY DON'T WORK!

YES IT DOES

YOU WAY LEADS TO FAILURE AND TYRANNY

CS, you told me he was shifty. "

No....I'm just an asshole.....you and sense deserve each other.

His dishonesty is only exceeded by his ignorance and stupidity."

Hi sense!!! I see you are in ad hominem mode again. Just because you cannot be intellectually honest about anything, does not mean you are debating. BTW....1 month lag in unemployment is one of your best made stories ever!! Suggest you go back to school and take an economics course.

Nope, it's quite possible we would have weather a mild financial panic if McCain was elected instead of Obama."

Wasn't McCain the guy who said the economy was strong in Aug 2008, a week before the bottom fell out. Or, how about this quote:

McCain: I Never Really Understood Economics. McCain said, “The issue of economics is something that I’ve really never understood as well as I should.” (Boston Globe, 12/18/07)

Yep....he sure would have done one helluva job....BTW sense.....I would have voted for McCain in 2000. Too bad you guys chose bush.

Hi sense!!! I see you are in ad hominem mode again.

Not at all. Just telling it like it is.

Yep....he sure would have done one helluva job....BTW sense.....

We will never know because he lost the election.

But we do know Obama has been a miserable failure.

I'd forgotten all about the lawyer and lobbyists' contributions to dramaObama...

RULES of the Liberal, keep those in mind now and always when they type.

Let's play liberal logic, the Conservatives can not suggest things would have been better under President McCain.

BUT (yes a big BUT), The Liberal can project that things would be worse in the economy IF NOT For all the things zerO has done to us.

Yep, and so goes the saul asslicking crowd.

Not at all. Just telling it like it is. "

Gee sense, you really have your A game today!!! I see it will really be difficult for you to come up with a fact today.....especially the 1 month lag.....You should take over Krugman's column, even he is not as prescient as you!

"We will never know because he lost the election."

Thank goodness!

But I am just curious, with a statement like that, why did you offer this?????


"Nope, it's quite possible we would have weather a mild financial panic if McCain was elected instead"

LOL

I know I have said I don't like posting op ed's, I really enjoyed this one....It really made me laugh!!!



Bring It On

by: William Rivers Pitt, t r u t h o u t | Op-Ed

Big snip

Sarah Palin, the once and future queen of the 'Baggers, invented a new word - "refudiate" - and then proceeded to compare herself to Shakespeare, proving once and for all that intelligence has no bearing on becoming famous. At about the same time, the Tea Party Federation threw out founder Mark Williams and his Tea Party Express for blogging about how spiffy slavery was for Black people in America. I suppose you have to give credit to the Tea Party for finally drawing a line in the sand about how much racism is too much, but with "Yup, I'm A Racist" t-shirts still being sold at Tea Party rallies, claims that the Tea Party isn't fundamentally racist because they dumped Williams are still going to be a hard sell.
The self-immolation didn't stop there. It seems a number of prominent Republicans are now vocally criticizing and ridiculing the Tea Party for being disorganized neophytes who do more harm than good to the GOP. Names like Trent Lott, Bob Bennett, Lindsey Graham and Bob Inglis are on the list of people who think this particular political phenomenon is a lot of noise with no substance. Graham was particularly venomous with his comments, stating in the New York Times that, "The problem with the Tea Party, I think it's just unsustainable because they can never come up with a coherent vision for governing the country. It will die out." Ouch...and yes, the Tea Party in whole and in part rose up righteous to attack Graham, Lott and the rest of their critics, further scrambling the GOP's political eggs on the eve of the midterm push.

But we do know Obama has been a miserable failure.

Amen.

"The problem with the Tea Party, I think it's just unsustainable because they can never come up with a coherent vision for governing the country. It will die out."

Oh well.

But I am just curious, with a statement like that, why did you offer this?????

Really Mumbles you don't know the diffrence between possible and certain?

Mumbles word for the day.

possible adj
1. able to happen: capable of happening or likely to happen in the future
2. maybe real or true: capable of being real, present, or true
3. capable of happening but unlikely: theoretically capable of happening or existing, although unlikely in practice
4. potential: having potential as a particular thing or for a particular purpose
5. proper: in keeping with convention, decorum, or tradition

But we certainly know Obama is a failure.

"The problem with the Tea Party, I think it's just unsustainable because they can never come up with a coherent vision for governing the country. It will die out."

Speaking of coherence. The whole op-ed is a bit of incoherent fantasizing.

The good news on the economy is on the mirco side of things.

The American that has a valued skill set and continues to get regular raises has been saving more, re-financing the home loan and is in a better position today to weather the coming storms.

I am hoping to start a new tone with the libs if they will drop the RULES they have been using to post here, if not, well I will continue to drive on the high road with my fellow Conservatives.

But we do know Obama has been a miserable failure.

I hold out some slim hope that he can learn and turn, so, I will add this, So far he has been a demonstrable miserable failure.

but I do find this obsession over me to be a fascinating study in social pathology. d

senseless, do not flatter yourself. We are observing and laughing at you and your denial of reality pathology.

You provide plenty of chuckles to go 'round.

Horrible news it appears the two of our brave Navy men have been taken by the Enemy in Afganistan.

I would be willing to trade 100 towel heads in our charge for every 1 American Service Member.

What you call unvarnished truth is really Krugman's bias opinion and that man is always wrong.

sensless: Doubling down on stupid.

It wasn't Krugman.

It was accurate.

The "WE" that are obsessing project their obsession of CS.

4 Days in to the Shorrod deal, she has not been re-hired.

Maybe it is because she is going to be doing very well with her 150 k and control over another 13 million.

I can't wait to see the paper tigers in the press follow up on all the poor she is going to help with her personal wealth.

Shorrod (sic) is a party in an old class action suit. She isn't wealthy.

But k'putz is stupid.

Speaking of coherence. The whole op-ed is a bit of incoherent fantasizing.

This is what I got out of it -

Graham isn't paying attention to the tea partiers.

Graham must not be up for re-election this November.

Pitt has no idea what Christians actually believe...and

...refudiate isn't a word, but then again neither is epantsapation.

She isn't wealthy.

well let's get past hp's RULES post.


She has a side deal in the claim that pays her 150 K, her group which she is a founding member will control the 13 million dollars that group recieves.

I believe those numbers make a person wealthy when combined with her report 70 k a year job that she was fired from and the wealth of the land she owns.

She is also involved in a long lasting marraige within that marraige her husband has worked and together they have obtained wealth, tell us Hp how many acres are her farms in total?

sensless: Doubling down on stupid.
It wasn't Krugman.
It was accurate.

The fact that you sole a quote without attribution is not suprising. The fact that you sole an idiotic quote and made it you own shouldn't have been surprising either.

The fact that you stole a quote without attribution is not suprising. The fact that you stole an idiotic quote and made it you own shouldn't have been surprising either.

LMAO

I did not claim the quote as my own, you stupid mo fo

If you were aware of what was going on in the world outside the world of 'the american thinker', you would have known it was a quote from Obama's weekly address.

Why is it that this blog is so blessed with stupid conservatives, that make it so, so easy to show them for the fools they be?

Yawn, Halfwit you're a dishonest troll and you'll never be more than a dishonest troll.

Really Mumbles you don't know the diffrence between possible and certain?"

Gee....It is possible that sense has had a cogent thought, however, I am certain it has never happened.

How's that sense.....I really love your tutorials....they are just so inane.


LOL

"Speaking of coherence. The whole op-ed is a bit of incoherent fantasizing. "

Kinda like everything you post from Wattsup and American Thinker....The difference sense, I thought that op ed was rather amusing, unlike you, who believe in the word of those false idols...

LOL

Graham must not be up for re-election this November."

I like Graham. He has a modicum of centrality to his position. I give him credit for voting for Kagan, unlike the rest of the republican weasels on that committee. Like I have heard from the right when the Dems were perceived to be holding bush nominee's, let's bring it to a vote, that's who wants for the job......

The fact that you sole a quote without attribution is not suprising."

Would you like Pilaf with your sole?


Chuckle

The great plagerizer speaks....LOL

When you got nothing, jump on a spelling or typo error.

You're such a petty bitch Mumbles.

Chuckle

Funny thing, senseless spelling errors get worse as the evening matures.

We know why..

"hick"

don't we?

We know why..
"hick"
don't we

It's spelled "hic" as in hiccup.
We definitely know it's true in your case.

Nope, it's quite possible we would have weather a mild financial panic if McCain was elected instead of Obama.

It had already happened, therefore no your surmise is not possible. Housing prices had peaked in 2006, and the bubble - at the root of the financial collapse - had already burst. The economic corrosion of lax and complicit regulatory climate and the tragic waste of wars had could not have been undone by McCain, not unless you postulate a time machine.

It is possible however that McCain would have implemented a more rational, more effective stimulus program. It would have been accidental, and highly improbable, but possible.

Filed Under:Common Idol Worship.

Just telling it like it is.

Repeating someting over and over don't make it true.
Ronald Reagan was an actor/soap salesman. 30 years of Reaganomics lead to the collapse of the economy and the middle class.

Obama now has 6 more years of dealing with the mess.
YOUR WAY DON'T WORK!
Reaganism is not the solution to our problem. Reaganism is the problem.

*hick* was an intentional spelling dufuss.

Look in the mirror tomorrow and see why.

I like Graham.

Oh, I like him too. But, either he hasn't been paying attention to the tea partiers, or he just spoke off of the cuff.

He has a modicum of centrality to his position. I give him credit for voting for Kagan, unlike the rest of the republican weasels on that committee.

I don't mind him voting for Kagan, we're just replacing one liberal with another, as far as I'm concerned. Plus, I don't mind the others not voting for her. It's not like they can keep her from being appointed, etc.

Like I have heard from the right when the Dems were perceived to be holding bush nominee's,

It was hardly "perceived".

let's bring it to a vote, that's who wants for the job......

Exactly. Paybacks are a bitch, aren't they?

I just have to wonder about op-eds like that one - where in the world did the guy get the idea that Christians don't believe that dinosaurs existed because they aren't mentioned in the Bible?

They are mentioned in the Bible. Tanniyn meant/means dragon, reptile, sea monster...Leviathan is another.

The Bible doesn't reference "scientific" names - but studies of the Bible clearly identify Biblical names with modern day scientific names.

"On that day, The LORD will punish with his sword that is cruel, great, and strong, Leviathan the fleeing serpent, Leviathan the coiled serpent; and he will slay the dragon that is in the sea." - Isaiah 27:1

I just don't get it when people think Christians don't believe in science...

...well, yes I do.

It's just one more way to belittle Christians - and - I just don't understand the "need" behind that kind of rhetoric.

Repeating someting over and over don't make it true.

Rich.

It is possible however that McCain would have implemented a more rational, more effective stimulus program. It would have been accidental, and highly improbable, but possible.

The kids on "Are you smarter than a fifth grader" could have implemented a more rational, more effective stimulus program.

Britain Plans to Decentralize Health Care

"In a document, or white paper, outlining the plan, the government admitted that the changes would “cause significant disruption and loss of jobs.” But it said: “The current architecture of the health system has developed piecemeal, involves duplication and is unwieldy. Liberating the N.H.S., and putting power in the hands of patients and clinicians, means we will be able to effect a radical simplification, and remove layers of management.” "

Imagine that...

Look in the mirror tomorrow and see why.

For the most part I like what I see in the mirror.

Do you?

I just don't get it when people think Christians don't believe in science...
...well, yes I do.
It's just one more way to belittle Christians - and - I just don't understand the "need" behind that kind of rhetoric.

It has always been so:

John 15 18:27

18. If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.

19. If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you

20.Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.

21. But all these things will they do unto you for my name's sake, because they know not him that sent me.

22. If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but now they have no cloak for their sin.

23. He that hateth me hateth my Father also.

24. If I had not done among them the works which none other man did, they had not had sin: but now have they both seen and hated both me and my Father.

25. But this cometh to pass, that the word might be fulfilled that is written in their law, They hated me without a cause.

26. But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:

27: And ye also shall bear witness, because ye have been with me from the beginning.

Filed Under:Lisaette you ignorant slut! #2

Imagine that...

They are not changing the way it's paid for. It's still a government program. It still cost them a lot less to have health care for everyone.

Why do you want for profit insurance companies to run health care in our country? You like paying more and getting less?

Why do you want for profit insurance companies to run health care in our country? You like paying more and getting less?

You ignorant old bastard - they're having trouble paying for all of it.

Layers and layers of red tape - just like our VA hospitals.

Ignorant old fool.

They are not changing the way it's paid for. It's still a government program. It still cost them a lot less to have health care for everyone

The Brits have conceded that a centralized bureaucracy is not to most efficient means of delivering healthcare. Also look for such things in Britain as private supplemental insurance and eventually contracting managed care to private entities.

The Brits are slowly realizing what you refuse to see.

YOUR WAY DON'T WORK

Filed Under:Lisaette you ignorant arrogant slut! #387

they're having trouble paying for all of it.

So are we you stupid bitch!
They pay a lot less than we do and have health care for everyone. They don't have people going bankrupt because of medical bills. They don't have 17% of the population with out coverage.
They don't have pay up or eat $hit and die medical care.
We pay a lot more and get less!
Why do you defend fat cat insurance industry CEO's?

Filed Under:Common Phony Conservative Propaganda.

The Brits are slowly realizing what you refuse to see.

Horse$hit! They are not going to disband the NHS. The Brits know single payer government health care SYSTEM is more cost effective than our FOR-PROFIT health care industry.
Why do you ignore reality?

Horse$hit! They are not going to disband the NHS. The Brits know single payer government health care SYSTEM is more cost effective than our FOR-PROFIT health care industry.

No it isn't you ignorant old fool.

Also look for such things in Britain as private supplemental insurance and eventually contracting managed care to private entities.

They already have private supplemental coverage with enrollment increasing...same with Canada - with (I think) over 60% of Canadians using private health insurance.

The Brits are slowly realizing what you refuse to see.

The American Liberal's credo:

No matter how many times it fails elsewhere, we still want it.

"They don't have people going bankrupt because of medical bills."

Because they die

Idiot

Horse$hit! They are not going to disband the NHS. The Brits know single payer government health care SYSTEM is more cost effective than our FOR-PROFIT health care industry.

Sure it is. You just let people suffer and die.

Axe falls on NHS services

Some of the most common operations — including hip replacements and cataract surgery — will be rationed as part of attempts to save billions of pounds, despite government promises that front-line services would be protected.

Patients’ groups have described the measures as “astonishingly brutal”.

An investigation by The Sunday Telegraph has uncovered widespread cuts planned across the NHS, many of which have already been agreed by senior health service officials. They include:

* Restrictions on some of the most basic and common operations, including hip and knee replacements, cataract surgery and orthodontic procedures.

* Plans to cut hundreds of thousands of pounds from budgets for the terminally ill, with dying cancer patients to be told to manage their own symptoms if their condition worsens at evenings or weekends.

* The closure of nursing homes for the elderly.

* A reduction in acute hospital beds, including those for the mentally ill, with targets to discourage GPs from sending patients to hospitals and reduce the number of people using accident and emergency departments.

Sarah Palin wasn't too far off in her "death panel" comment. This is what is in store for the US under Obama.

But the current drop in youth support isn’t merely due to younger voters finally figuring out that Obama and the Democrats are using their credit card. There’s also what I call “The Peggy Effect.”

Basically “The Peggy Effect” is this: Everybody who voted for Obama because of all the free stuff they’d be getting, such as the famed “Peggy the Moocher” (who was Obama’s freeloading answer to “Joe the Plumber”), have been running to their mailboxes for a year and a half now, and… pretty much nothing. No free mortgage; no free car; no free gas — hell, no free health care yet for that matter. It’s taking a toll on Obama’s approval ratings.

Not even the dead are safe sround the left

Hugo Chavez, the president of Venezuela, has exhumed the remains of South American independence hero Simon Bolivar to determine the cause of his death nearly 200 years ago.

Mr Chavez suspects that Bolivar was murdered and did not die from tuberculosis, as most historians believe. Announcing the exhumation of his hero on Twitter, Mr Chavez said he "wept with emotion".

Mr Chavez suspects that Bolivar was murdered and did not die from tuberculosis, as most historians believe. Announcing the exhumation of his hero on Twitter, Mr Chavez said he "wept with emotion".

He probably thinks the CIA did it.
Idiot.

RULES for Radicals are on full display by the extreme superbots of the left.

With that in mind, I continue. Opium took a shot at these facts, made up some of his own and failed.

These facts stand:

Unemployment under W vs O.

2001 4.76 Bush, G.W.
2002 5.78
2003 5.99
2004 5.53
2005 5.08
2006 4.63
2007 4.61
2008 5.76
2009 9.26 Obama

Miseryindex.us

The good news is that at the best by Obama's best case scenario is that at the end of his only term it will be at or above 8%.

god, you talk about Health Care Cost in the US and you support Obama Care, I suspect you know this fact and can answer this question, none of the other supporters of Obama care can so you will be in an elite group, of ONE.

Libs tell us exactly how much expressed in US Dollars anyone under the new Health Care Affordability Act will be paying?

Here is the disclaimer for the question.

Anyone? (I better add this, of those of us that will be paying, exclude the free loaders and interlopers)

CS could you be kind enough to post the stolen quote.

Thanks.

You're such a petty bitch Mumbles."

Gee sense....no I question whether you even have a ged!!! You seem to thrive on debasing comments. It is just indicative of your intellect..

BTW.....It is highly possible the GW is being affected by man, it is certain that sense considers it and evolution a hoax.

It was hardly "perceived". "

I used that word for a reason, to see what it would draw out. IMHO, as bad as the dems acted for bush nominees, the current repubs are making another big game out of it......Like some repub said during the dem obstruction, "let's give them an up or down vote" or something close to that....LOL

Christians don't believe that dinosaurs existed because they aren't mentioned in the Bible?"

There are certain elements that question the age of the earth and whether certain fossile records are real. Is it a minority, yes, but very small group indeed. However, you certainly can see the number of christians that think evolution is a hoax in spite of the science. Sense is one of those. I am not making excuses for the writer, I clearly stated it was an op ed, but, I can see how he can make that claim, right, wrong or indifferent. It is an opinion piece. Just like Hotair et al....an opinion.

It's just one more way to belittle Christians - and - I just don't understand the "need" behind that kind of rhetoric.

It has always been so:

John 15 18:27

18. If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.


Thanks for the proof sense, quote the bible.....BIG CHUCKLE


Ette....I have never used the term christians and belief in science in absolute terms. Ever! There are certain elements, the fundamentalists, creationists and certain baptist sects that believe that. Sense is one of those. Does it make him a bad person. No....Does it take him out of the main stream.....Yes. Now, if you want to argue on my intent, fine. But, what I just said is what I believe.

.. and that's what it's all about. Let us go "Back to the Future" of the 1880's, when risk taking capitalists did not have to worry about killing workers,there are more out there waiting to take that job.

Poor CEO Blankenship. (A mass murderer who gets away with it, to the cheers of CHT.) That mean federal government is not allowing him to pursue his happiness, just because his employees are dead. It brings to mind the sad plight of the BP CEO, Tony Hayward, who visited the Gulf Coast that his company has wrecked and complained that "I'd like my life back." Happily, Hayward (Another murderer who got away with it to the cheers of CHT and the apology of a Republican congressman) got his wish and returned to yachting.

It's easy to paint Blankenship as a villain, with his moustache, double chin and rough edges (he twice lamented the "abstract poverty" in the world). But his theme -- and his complete absence of corporate responsibility -- is very much the message corporate America has adopted in this mid-term campaign year: If you've got a problem, blame the government.

Consider the efforts this month by the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, once a center of moderate Republicanism that worked with both parties but now a sort of radicalized corporate Tea Party, spending $75 million this fall mostly to defeat Democrats. The chairman of the group's board -- on which Blankenship served until recently -- accused the Obama administration and congressional Democrats of a "general attack on our free enterprise system." Specifically, the chamber accused the Democrats of "an ill-advised course of government expansion, major tax increases, massive deficits, and job-destroying regulations."

Taxes? The nonpartisan Tax Foundation in May described Americans' tax burden in 2009 as the lowest since 1959. Job-destroying regulations? The lack of regulation on Wall Street led to a financial collapse that killed millions of jobs. Massive deficits? One of the biggest causes of the gap is the $800 billion stimulus package supported by -- wait for it -- the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. And the chamber wants the government to spend even more: It demands that Congress "quickly pass a multiyear federal surface transportation bill." That would costs hundreds of billions more. And let's not forget the chamber's desire to "get the money from the government" to help pay for the BP oil cleanup.

That's what we're talkin' about Willis, the rights of workers not to get killed and government to protect them are EVIL and must be stopped.

Filed Under:Common Phony Strawman.

Sarah Palin wasn't too far off in her "death panel" comment.

Katherine Murphy, of the Patients Association, said ‘We cannot return to the days of people waiting in pain for years for a hip operation or having to pay for operations privately.”
NO WHERE ARE THEY ADVOCATING SCRAPPING THE GOVERNMENT RUN NHS! They are trying to cut cost because the revenue has dropped because of the (Bush) great world wide recession.

This is what is in store for the US under Obama.

That is a flat out lie. We are headed for bankruptcy faster because we ALREADY pay more with our FOR PROFIT INDUSTRY controled health care than a NHS style system would cost.

This article is just more proof that YOUR WAY DON'T WORK!

Filed Under:American vs British Health Care.
BREAST CANCER IN CHICAGO AND THE UK

Angela, Chicago, US:
"Ultimately I filed chapter seven bankruptcy. The hospital was billed for $193,426 which was the 80%.

Cathy, UK:
"Goodness knows how much it would cost if it wasn't covered by the NHS.

More Thunderstorms broke out across the Summer of Recovery this weekend.

A Tornado is predicted on Penn. Ave. in DC on Monday.

Libs tell us exactly how much expressed in US Dollars anyone under the new Health Care Affordability Act will be paying?

High risk individuals with pre-existing conditions (uninsurable), will have costs capped at $496 per month.

Otherwise, the annual premium for an average family of four is $4000. The employer will pay 60% or more of that, otherwise a 72% premium subsidy is provided. Lower income families will have a greater subsidy, higher income lesser subsidy.

Little Timmy Tax cheat was talk up the Bush tax cuts this weekend, he laid out the pro-Bush tax cuts that need to remain in place for the economy to continue to grow.

He also wants the Dem Lead Congress to get to the business of doing their job and write the new laws for keeping those Bush Tax cuts.

High risk individuals with pre-existing conditions (uninsurable), will have costs capped at $496 per month.

Otherwise, the annual premium for an average family of four is $4000."

Thanks WP.

John 15 18:27

18. If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.


Thanks for the proof sense, quote the bible.....BIG CHUCKLE

opiespa, when a Christian quotes the bible, sometimes it's solely for the benefit of other Christians even if it's apparently directed in general. That passage can't really be understood correctly in a superficial, literal sense but it is crystal clear to the faithful.

Now, if you want to argue on my intent, fine. But, what I just said is what I believe.

Actually, I was referring to the author of the op-ed, and not anything you said.

There are certain elements, the fundamentalists, creationists and certain baptist sects that believe that.

Oh, I know. But, even within those elements, the beliefs change even further - some more mainstream, and some not so much.

For instance, my fundie sister has a degree in biology, believes in creationism - and believes in evolution - so her ideology would be considered a mix of the two. (I forget what she calls herself - and she's a real fundie, lol - whoever heard of not cursing!)

Sense is one of those.

I've never asked CS, but, that's not the impression I have of his belief system...

when a Christian quotes the bible, sometimes it's solely for the benefit of other Christians even if it's apparently directed in general. That passage can't really be understood correctly in a superficial, literal sense but it is crystal clear to the faithful"

Thanx WP. Most passages in the bible have multiple interpretations based on the readings the "elders" of each demonimation make. # 18 must be important to someone, not me. Sense quotes such things because that is what he believes in toto. Fine, but he also passes that those teachings are facts, that I do not buy at all.

and that's what it's all about. Let us go "Back to the Future" of the 1880's, when risk taking capitalists did not have to worry about killing workers,there are more out there waiting to take that job.

What a load of garbage.

"some more mainstream, and some not so much. "

Yep, that is a true statement. My aim is at all deniers, especially of science.


"I've never asked CS, but, that's not the impression I have of his belief system... "

Cool....my impression is different. The other day when I gave some examples of his tenets on GW, Evolution, and the earth 6k years old, the only thing he refuted me on was spelling. Again, JMHO.

BTW ette......just a human interest story, while my progeny and her mother take a much deserved "thelma and louise" trip......I get to baby sit her 3 cats, my last one, and feed the "brick" who lives outside.....How soon you forget how much a cat can recycle on a daily basis......they all are really cute things.....except for Taz....I am sure you can figure out what that is short for!!! LOL

Opium, you asked if I think everyone is stupid.

My answer : No, just some of you, as in you, dog, hp, JBD and cowens.

The others are as smart or smarter.

No offense.

My aim is at all deniers, especially of science.

I have the utmost respect for the field of science - but - I know - science changes from time to time.

Coffee used to be bad - now it's kinda good.

Decaf was good - now it's kinda bad.

Red meat was really bad - now it's back to bein' kinda good.

LOL!

Once they do figure out the "missing link" - I'm hoping it will be the Irrawaddy dolphin or the Beluga whale - but - it'll probably be a Gorilla type creature.

The silver back is beautiful - the females? not so much...

"I've never asked CS, but, that's not the impression I have of his belief system... "

Cool....my impression is different. The other day when I gave some examples of his tenets on GW, Evolution, and the earth 6k years old, the only thing he refuted me on was spelling. Again, JMHO.

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Comment from: opiespa1 [Visitor]
You are the creationist, not me, its your tenet, not mine. Why don't you tell me. LOL
07/21/10 @ 18:37

Comment from: commonsense [Member]

Actually I'm not. You just assumed I was. I never corrected you because the one guilty pleasure I have is seeing you make an ass of yourself.
07/21/10 @ 18:43

Mumbles lied to you Ette he has known for at least 4 days that I'm not a creationist. For reasons of his own, he wants to persist in spreading the myth.

Mumbles is congentially dishonest.

If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.

what if he hate me?

How soon you forget how much a cat can recycle on a daily basis......they all are really cute things.....except for Taz....I am sure you can figure out what that is short for!!! LOL

Lmao - oh yeah - I can figure that one.

We have two litter boxes for three cats - we have Miss Belle, who is as mean as a snake, Peaches and Herb - both sweet as can be.

Since Mr. S is spending so much time in Alabama these days, I have to change the litter box - daily - or - whew!

I use dried corn litter, but it still can smell really bad.

Gotta run - new mower is here - guess getting 27 years out of a mower isn't too bad.

Psst, Ette's "mower" is named Ramon..


;-)

What the Tax Foundation said.


"A Closer Look at Popular USA Today Article Claiming Historically Low Taxes
by Gerald Prante

An article in the business section of today's USA Today that is headlined, "Tax bills in 2009 at lowest level since 1950" has garnered a lot of attention on the web today (the White House has even re-tweeted it.) The headline is accurate when properly interpreted, but the numbers within the article contain some flaws."

Tax Foundation in their own words, not some half baked idea of what they said.

Do not feed the troll!!!

Gotta run - new mower is here -

ya gotta new beaner?

did the old one finally get deported?

Ranking your State of Freedom

RULES for Radicals are being strictly enforce today.

Jane "he hate me"

Mumbles lied to you Ette he has known for at least 4 days that I'm not a creationist. For reasons of his own, he wants to persist in spreading the myth."

The only myth is you. You have been called on GW, evolution, the earth's age. All you have denied was the earths age with some conversation with Levyrat as a cite. Your reality is denial. If you are not a creationist, what are you? All you say is that you are not. Well, in reality, I don't care because in my alternate universe, my interpretation is that is what you are. Tough crap Sense, it is your moniker and it sticks.

guess getting 27 years out of a mower isn't too bad. "


Good for you.....I made a strategic decision 4 weeks ago and retired my Toro and hired a guy named Chris.....$65 a month....I'd officially retired....LOL

I'd=I'm

All you have denied was the earths age with some conversation with Levyrat as a cite. Your reality is denial.

You can search high and low on this blog and you won't find one statement by me that the earth's 6000 years old. In fact I told Levyrat that radiological evidence proves the earth is a least 4.5 billion years ago.

You will however find many statements by both you and Halfwit (and only you and Halfwit) assuming in your bigoted way that I believe that.

Like I said, I didn't bother to correct it because I enjoyed seeing you make an ass of yourself but I also know your religious bigotry will never accept the truth.

As for Evolution, like I told Leveyrat, Evolution is a scientific theory with a large body of evidence. There is a lot more evidence for Evolution than Anthropogenic Global Warming (Hell, there is more evidence for Intelligent Design than Anthropogenic Global Warming).

Nevertheless it is still a scientific theory and not an absolute truth. Anybody who claims scientific theories are absolute truths are not real scientist but political hacks.

White House backed release of Lockerbie bomber Abdel Baset al-Megrahi

Clinton and Obama had got some s'plaining to do.

I don't care because in my alternate universe, my interpretation is that is what you are.

In other words you don't care what I am just what you think I am.

Thanks for clearing that up.

Oh, OH the irony.

Opium, you asked if I think everyone is stupid.

My answer : No, just some of you, as in you, dog, hp, JBD and cowens.

commonsense [Member]
White House backed release of Lockerbie bomber Abdel Baset al-Megrahi

Clinton and Obama had got some s'plaining to do"

yes they do, now where is MSNBC's Luke Russert so we can get real questions asked and answered.


See Rangle vs. Russert and which one won.

BP's CEO Hayward looks like he is going to be fired and will depart the company with 14 million dollars.

For those of you that believe as I do that amount makes one rich, I defer to hp who stated 13 million is not wealthy.

Good economic news is coming in tomorrow.

Looks like Housing is going to give us a little ray of sunshine.

UP 10 thousand unit over the previous month to 310,000 units. New Home Sales Bloomberg

Anybody who claims scientific theories are absolute truths"

E=MC2

My case rests.



"Nevertheless it is still a scientific theory and not an absolute truth. Anybody who claims scientific theories are absolute truths are not real scientist but political hacks. "

Yep....you are nothing but a creationist. Keep trying to explain you are not by proving science is nothing but a theory!!!!. In my opinion, you are what I say you are. Keep posting scripture to make a point. That proves to me what you are. All you have done is deny and not proved anything else at all.

Chuckle.

In other words you don't care what I am just what you think I am."

LOL....prove otherwise, sense, and I'll change my mind based on the evidence, unlike you. You have given me nothing to make that change.

Chuckle

E=MC2
My case rests.

Even Einstein’s Theory of Relitivity is undergoing review. The chief problem with the theory is that it clashes with Quantum Mechanics. Both theories have been validated by experiments but paradoxically they contradict each other. For over 300 years Newtonian physics was settle science but one man with an idea upset the apple cart.

As I said before, no real scientist would ever considered theories absolute truth. The true scientist would treat all theories with skepticism. Only a bigot with say it’s absolute truth and there is no more to be learned.

LOL....prove otherwise, sense

I don't have to. You already said yourself that you would lie and misrepresent in order to fit it in your “alternative universe”.

You admitted to this blog you are intellectually dishonest and will engage in character assassination to suit your purpose.

I need not add anything further.

A Paler Shade Of White – The Journolist Conspirators

Aren't these the folks threatening to throw people through plate glass windows and fucking up people in bar fights? Well, most of them look like they'd have problems fighting off a litter of kittens

Dateline did yet another piece on the Poor in America, I have no idea why they did the piece, it was the same as so many before it.

They believe that the have's are not doing enough to help the have not's.

To that I say to the have's are you tired of this kind of crap being thrown our way?

Cali, I am not suprised that the list is long and getting longer as more conservatives dig into this group of back stabbing liars and misfits.

Paul Krugman being on the list fits well like a good Lamont sheep skin glove .

sensless comments on quantum physics.

now that, is

Priceless

Peru Government Declares Cold Wave Emergency in 16 Regions

But of course it's just weather.

Both theories have been validated by experiments but paradoxically they contradict each other.

Conflict how?

ya gotta new beaner?

did the old one finally get deported?

Yep!

Retired my 1983(ish) Dixon! Got me a brand spankin' new Gravely with 42" of cuttin' - she's a beaut!

Mumbles lied to you Ette he has known for at least 4 days that I'm not a creationist. For reasons of his own, he wants to persist in spreading the myth.

I didn't see those earlier posts - so - you're not a whacked-out-fundie, lol!

Conflict how?

The most detail explanation of the contradictions are found deep in the equations.

The simplest way to put is that what works big should also work small. In other words physical laws should be consistent not matter what level you are considering.

This has not turn out to be the case were particle behavior predicted by Quantum Mechanics is in conflict with principles found in Relativity. Scientist have been trying for years to reconcile the two theories into one unified theory.

WP if you are really really interested here's a short crib sheet version of the conflicts in modern physics:

Contradictions in Modern Physics

I didn't see those earlier posts - so - you're not a whacked-out-fundie, lol!

In Mumbles' alternate universe I am. But I think he's the only one who goes there.

Aren't these the folks threatening to throw people through plate glass windows and fucking up people in bar fights? Well, most of them look like they'd have problems fighting off a litter of kittens

Lmao - they're just a pack of wussies - big talkers - but they sure made a difference with our supposed "fair" election, didn't they.

No wonder Krugman can't be believed - weirdo that he is - he has a lot vested in this regime.

This should be a teachable moment to the liberals on here - they were manipulated and didn't even know it.

Piggyback this with the series "We will not be silenced"...

...it all begins to make sense.

Those calling dramaObama the Manchurian President may not be that far off, eh.

Well, this is what I figger, CS...

You're a skeptic - and - to my way of thinkin' - that's a good thing.

Lmao - they're just a pack of wussies - big talkers - but they sure made a difference with our supposed "fair" election, didn't they.

Indeed their promotion of a weak and incompetent man to be president is nothing short of criminal.

Indeed their promotion of a weak and incompetent man to be president is nothing short of criminal.

Yep.

For those of you that believe as I do that amount makes one rich, I defer to hp who stated 13 million is not wealthy.

hellsbells, with only 13 million one could hardly afford to hide your new 7 million dollar yacht to avoid paying taxes...while traveling between your 5 multimillion dollar mansions, complete with slaves (probably no Federal taxes being paid or reported), etc...all while "weeping" for the plight of the poor, and opining on "zhenzhis" khan.

"The true scientist would treat all theories with skepticism."

You, infer yourself to a true scientist!!! LOL....you treat everything with skepticism because of your faith. As to scientists treating ALL theories with skepticism, you really are just making stuff up, again.

First, relativity is about Gravity.

Second E=MC2 is a consequence of Relativity. So is the finite speed of light. There is zero scientific doubt about the equation, sense, it has just never been accurately proven due to the difficulty in measuring the mass after nuclear fussion. But, I am glad to see you show additional expertise in another subject you know nothing about!!!

New England boat builders say shame on Sen. John Kerry for buying a $7 million New Zealand-built luxury yacht while local ship makers struggle to find work.

“Darn, that would have been a wonderful job for a Maine builder,” said Jane Wellehan, president of the trade group Maine Built Boats. “If someone comes to build a $7 million boat that would employ half the population of some towns for a year or two. Boat building is such a critical component of our coastal economy.”

Gregory Egan, who owns the Crosby Yacht Yard in Osterville, said Bay State boat builders must feel cut adrift by Kerry as well

"Peru Government Declares Cold Wave Emergency in 16 Regions

But of course it's just weather. "

Gee, it appears you may have actually learned something! Congratulations in joining the real world......or are you just trolling, sense?

zerObama only issuing 105 billion in d#bt this week...he really has it under control now.

"The Treasury plans to auction $39 billion in two-year notes, $37 billion of five-year debt and $29 billion in seven- year securities"

Meanwhile the Fed's balance sheet "reached the record level of $2.354 trillion on May 19, the result of central bank purchases of bonds to help reduce borrowing costs."

Wake up the children and tell them to drag their azzes to the saltmine and get to work to pay this off...maybe by the time they are 200-300 years old they can take a days vacation and visit the Heintz-kerry yacht.

“If someone comes to build a $7 million boat that would employ half the population of some towns for a year or two. Boat building is such a critical component of our coastal economy.”

Yeah, so what. Since when did dems give a rats azz about american jobs. Drilling moratoriums, higher taxes, HCR, crapandtax...all will kill off more jobs.

President Dumbass has a new fall election message, things could be worse, really.

In 18 months he has gone from hopenchange to HOPE THINGS DON'T CHANGE.

If you have an open mind and you look past the headlines or question conventional wisdom of the day, then the left has to attack you, the follow the RULES nearly as a faith.


1st Amendment at the freedom of speech is not the possession of the LEFT.

How many Obamabots support the Enemies List of the President?

“If someone comes to build a $7 million boat that would employ half the population of some towns for a year or two. Boat building is such a critical component of our coastal economy.”

To Bad President Clinton did know that when he all but killed the large private boat/yacht building industry in the US with punishing taxes.

A bit of good news. Funny thing. If the news had been bad, k'putz woulda been all over it. It isn't, so he trolls with an accusation of an enemy list. Fox "News" should hire him, he is aleady a trained lap dog.

WASHINGTON — Sales of new U.S. single-family homes rebounded strongly in June from the prior month's record low, government data showed on Monday, driving the number of houses on the market to their lowest level in nearly 42 years. (This follows what a realtor friend of mine said, good homes for sale are hard to find. An even bigger problem though, is getting a loan!)

The Commerce Department said sales jumped 23.6 percent to a 330,000 unit annual rate from a downwardly revised 267,000 units in May. The sales pace last month was still the second lowest since records started in 1963. The percentage increase was the largest increase since May 1980, and partially unwound the prior month's historic 36.7 percent decline.

Analysts polled by Reuters had forecast new home sales rising to a 320,000 unit pace last month from May's previously reported 300,000 units.

The report suggested the housing market may be close to working through the distortions following the end of a popular home-buyer tax credit in April, an incentive that brought forward sales. Data last week showed home construction fell to an eight-month low in June, while sales of existing home sales were the lowest in three months.

Last month's surge in sales saw the supply of new homes available for sale dropping to 7.6 months' worth from 9.6 months ' worth in May.

The number of new homes on the market dropped 1.4 percent to 210,000 units, the lowest level since September 1968. The median sale price for a new home fell 1.4 percent last month to $213,400. In the 12 months to June, prices dipped 0.6 percent.

New home sales in June rebounded 23.6 percent after plunging a revised 36.7 percent in May.

This is good news, well, for this poorly performing economy this is welcomed news.

Instead of damaging winds and flooding rains we got a partly sunny day in this Summer of Recovery.

driving the number of houses on the market to their lowest level in nearly 42 years

Please explain why you highlighted this portion and do you know what has lead to the low number?

Grand Theft Baseball.

Haren to the Halos for Saunders.

Haren gains them 2-3 wins over Saunders, with upside potential, 2 years plus club option and a solid, durable All Star pitcher. Saunders, good personality, great team guy, no upside.

Back to the bitchin'.

Gee, it appears you may have actually learned something! Congratulations in joining the real world......or are you just trolling, sense?

The answer is that you're too stupid to recognize sarcasm.

WASHINGTON — Sales of new U.S. single-family homes rebounded strongly in June from the prior month's record low, government data showed on Monday, driving the number of houses on the market to their lowest level in nearly 42 years. (This follows what a realtor friend of mine said, good homes for sale are hard to find. An even bigger problem though, is getting a loan!)

What the story didn't say is that June and July are typically the busiest months of the year to sell or buy a house. It's the time when families want to move and settle in while their children are out of school.

I wouldn't look for the trend to continue.

Shameless: More evidence, as if it were necessary, that the Republicans are shameless.

Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele has a party fundraising event coming up in August that is scheduled to feature a very special guest: Conservative media activist Andrew Breitbart, according to a copy of the invitation exclusively obtained by TPM.

The fundraising event, billed as an "Election Countdown," will take place from August 12-14 in Beverly Hills, California, and will also feature other politicians such as California Lt. Gov. Abel Maldonado, Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, and Nevada Republican gubernatorial nominee Brian Sandoval. Steele and Breitbart are scheduled to co-headline a welcome reception on the first evening, August 12.

I wouldn't look for do not want the trend to continue.

It would be bad for the Republican party.

hp, why must you be such a dumbass.

I posted this yesterday and yet today instead of joining me in this tempered good economic news you go to the RULES.

misplacedmich [Member] Email
Good economic news is coming in tomorrow.

Looks like Housing is going to give us a little ray of sunshine.

UP 10 thousand unit over the previous month to 310,000 units. New Home Sales Bloomberg
07/25/10 @ 18:04

"The answer is that you're too stupid to recognize sarcasm. "

With your lack of humor and belief gw is a hoax, you would not know sarcasm if it bit you in the ankle. You've posted that type of article as "proof" more than once. I guess you haven't learned anything, much to my chagrin. But, thanx for trying to explain your faux humor.

What the story didn't say is that June and July are typically the busiest months of the year to sell or buy a house. It's the time when families want to move and settle in while their children are out of school.

I wouldn't look for the trend to continue.

I needed to post your opinion again because the RULES required it to be bastardized.

Chris Wallace please give Howard Dean his stupid uniformed ass back to him.

Opie, the unintended humor by sensless made me 'chuckle'. The jerk has no sense of humor, at all. Yet he's claiming you did not get his 'sarcasm'.

And..

What do we call a "Troll" on CHT? I call it k'putz. It goes by another name, but we know what it is, don't we?

GOP Wingnut forced to back-pedal, quickly.

CNN) – Republican Rep. Zach Wamp of Tennessee wants to make one thing clear: If elected governor, the Volunteer State will remain part of the United States.

"Of course we will not secede from the union," Wamp told reporters at a campaign stop in Franklin, Tennessee over the weekend, according to the Associated Press. "But we will also not have a governor who will cave in to Barack Obama."

Wamp's comments came a day after he appeared to suggest to Hotline OnCall that mandates forced on the states by the Obama administration's health care bill have put secession on the table.

"I hope that the American people will go to the ballot box in 2010 and 2012 so that states are not forced to consider separation from this government," Wamp told the Hotline

.

GOP Wingnut forced to back-pedal, quickly.

So the real story was that a reporter was actually stupid enought to ask that question.

So much for teaching history at journalisim school.

Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals

Look at the posts today from the leftist on this board.

Look at how they are using the RULES.

The Floriduhh dumbass knows what journalism is too. It is what "NewsBusters" and Breitbart tell him it is.

. Zach Wamp (R-03) suggested TN and other states may have to consider seceding from the union if the federal government does not change its ways regarding mandates.

"I hope that the American people will go to the ballot box in 2010 and 2012 so that states are not forced to consider separation from this government," said Wamp during an interview with Hotline OnCall.

He lauded Gov. Rick Perry (R-TX), who first floated the idea of secession in April '09, for leading the push-back against health care reform, adding that he hopes the American people "will send people to Washington that will, in 2010 and 2012, strictly adhere" to the constitution's defined role for the federal government.

"Patriots like Rick Perry have talked about these issues because the federal government is putting us in an untenable position at the state level," said Wamp, who is competing with Knoxville Mayor Bill Haslam (R) and LG Ron Ramsey (R) for the GOP nod in the race to replace TN Gov. Phil Bredesen (D).

When asked if Haslam is opposed to secession, his spokesperson David Smith said, "Yeah."

"Yeah" .. quite the walk back.

Grand Theft Baseball.

Haren to the Halos for Saunders.

The angels still have a ball club? How 'bout them Rangers.

Teabaggers have consequences.

Republicans are growing increasingly frustrated with Sharron Angle and her lackluster campaign to unseat Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.), fearing she is jeopardizing what they had long viewed as a sure pickup and costing them a chance to reclaim the majority.

Senate Republicans quietly acknowledge that Angle’s controversial views on some issues remain a political liability. But the former Nevada Assemblywoman’s larger problems are a progression of unforced errors stemming from a lack of campaign experience and an amateurish staff incapable of offering her the necessary guidance. However, Angle has proved to be adept at fundraising, corralling $2.6 million in the second quarter.

There is a sucker born every minute. Why most of them are Republican, is still subject to inquiry.

I don't think the Halos can count on Texas to fade this year. Haren helps, no doubt. But now the Angels are 7 back.

It's not an impossible task, just an improbable one. The Rangers finally put a pitching staff together to support an offense for years, that has been able to score a lot of runs.

Depending on how the bracket work, in the end, it would not surprise me to see the Yankees and Rangers in the ALCS with the Rangers able to give as good as the Yanks.

Angels only path to the playoffs is the wild card, IMO.

Of course, they took that road in 2002 and won it all. But I don't look for lightening to strike twice.

The Show Me State is going to vote on MaxistCare

The war over health care reform may have subsided in Washington, D.C., but the battle is still raging in Missouri as opponents gear up for an Aug. 3 vote on Proposition C.

The measure, a legislatively-referred ballot initiative approved by the Missouri General Assembly during the 2010 regular session, seeks to bar the federal government from mandating that people buy health insurance, and would shield Missourians who do not have insurance from the law’s tax penalty called for under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act signed into law by President Barack Obama in March.'

Let's see just how the governed vote.

The Rangers finally put a pitching staff together to support an offense for years, that has been able to score a lot of runs.

Yeah. Surprise, surprise. All it has taken is nearly 40 years to figure out you have to have some able pitching to win.

Until they finally beat the Yanks in NY, they are still the Yank's little bitches though.

"Yeah" .. quite the walk back.

Neither Wamp or Perry ever avocated or use the term secession. That is an invention of the hyperbolic left-wing noise-machine.

In an op-ed piece[80] distributed on May 17, 2009, Perry stated "I have never advocated for secession and never will."
Wiki

Niether it nor you can ever be considered credible again.

Whatta, all it took for them to figure that out is to add HOF pitcher Nolan Ryan to the management team.

In one of the first games I went to after moving to California, I went to a Rangers/Angels game, in the Angels last homestand of the year, this was 1987 or 1989. Both teams were out of contention.

Ryan was pitching for the Rangers. He still had a lot of fans here at the time. Getting rid of him when they did has to rank among the top 100 stupid baseball moves.

Anyhow, Ryan had a no-no through five, I believe. Rangers finally got some runs, top of the sixth, Ryan sat quite a period of time, wasn't quite as hot, and gave up a couple hits, perhaps a run. The fans seemed far more disappointed at Ryan losing the no no than they did for the Angels hits.

A Whole Lotta Dancin' Going on in Floriduhh

Texans are fed up with federal tax policies, and might get so fed up that they decide they want to secede from the union, Gov. Rick Perry told reporters Wednesday after he attended an anti-tax tea party rally in Austin.

He said the federal government has gone somewhat astray from what our founders wanted and he believes the federal government is choking Americans with excessive spending and taxation.

And although Perry made it clear he doesn't see the need to secede and isn't advocating for that, he said there's no question that's on the mind of some Texans. That was obvious at tea parties around the state, where "Secede" was a popular slogan on signs.

"Texas is a unique place," he said. "When we came into the union in 1845, one of the issues was that we would be able to leave if we decided to do that.

"My hope is that America and Washington in particular pays attention," he said. "We've got a great union. There's absolutely no reason to dissolve it. But if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people, you know, who knows what might come out of that. But Texas is a very unique place, and we're a pretty independent lot to boot.”

The sales pace last month was still the second lowest since records started in 1963. The percentage increase was the largest increase since May 1980, and partially unwound the prior month's historic 36.7 percent decline.

LMAO!

leave it to the bho nutsack polishers at MSDNC to try to spin horrible news into a positive.

how much you want to bet a journO-list tool wrote that article?

LOL.

He said the federal government has gone somewhat astray from what our founders wanted...

somewhat astray?

that's like saying that grand kkkleagle byrd is somewhat dead.

Why did President Obama find a need to lie about his roll in the release of the Lockerbie bomber?


He supported the release privately and publicly he condemned it.

Good economic news is coming in tomorrow.

Looks like Housing is going to give us a little ray of sunshine.

UP 10 thousand unit over the previous month to 310,000 units. New Home Sales Bloomberg
07/25/10 @ 18:04 "


Proving HP wrong is a daily event.

how much you want to bet a journO-list tool wrote that article?

Rat, I looked at HP's link on housing, a unusual thing was found on that link.

No author, HP's piece has no named author.

Since the release of the names of the Urna-list, the new tactic might be to write but not include the by-line.

a new aka for hp - Headlines Parrot, see he can post/parrot a headline but he is unable to answer questions which demand he think independently.

a new aka for hp - Headlines Parrot, see he can post/parrot a headline but he is unable to answer questions which demand he think independently.

The Human Projector is busy fighting the civil war again.

Wingnut Walkback!

I hope that the American people will go to the ballot box in 2010 and 2012 so that states are not forced to consider separation from this government,” said Wamp

You are obsessive today aren't you Halfwit.

You do know there's a slight diffrence in the meaning of both words don't you?

You're in full Drama Queen mode today.

LOL

Unlike you senseless, I can have a bit of fun at the expense of simpletons like you, and what doubles it down, is you do not even know when someone is fucking with you.

My guess is,you got picked on, a LOT.

"Journalism", Breitbart style.


The bloodbath continues in America's heartland and now word is coming in that the People's Liberation Army, the highly trained killers on the payroll of the Communist Chinese government, have crossed into the United States by tunneling through the center of the Earth and have taken over at least two ranches in the Springview, Nebraska area. I am receiving word that the owners of the ranches have evacuated without being harmed.

Founder of the San Diego Minutemen Jeff Schwilk tipped me off to this story and passes along the following information on the location. Schwilk, you may remember, was the incredibly reliable source who tipped us off the this story about our Mexlamofascist overlords starting the reconquista of the Southwestern United States. Anyway, here is what he is telling us:

I can personally vouch that this info came in late last night from a reliable police source inside the Springview PD. There is currently a standoff between the unknown size ChiCom forces and the Nebraska National Guard and local law enforcement. The Chinese have apparently been planning this tunnel for decades and now their vile plan has come to fruition. Upon entering the Heartland, the PLA began immediately setting up restaurants to convert upstanding Real Americans to their heathenistic commie ideology. Reports indicate that dozens of corn-fed Heartlanders are now gorging themselves on General Gao's chicken and delicious spring rolls! The source tells us he considers this an "act of war" and that the military is needed in the Heartland immediately!

WE MUST ALERT THE MANY PATRIOTIC BLOGGERS WHO HAVE BEEN DOING A BANG-UP JOB COVERING THE TOTALLY ACCURATE RECONQUISTA STORY THAT WE ARE NOW BEING INVADED ON TWO FRONTS!!! CH: GEAR UP FOR ACTION!


Sensing the weakness of our Chicago thug president, America's enemies have decided that now is the time to finally bring our country to her knees! But with the help of True Patriots, we can repel these foreign invaders! All Patriot Bloggers must report with their firearms to Nebraska immediately to defend the Heartland! Or else they can, you know, just do their patriotic duty by providing us with frequent updates while drinking Mountain Dew from the safety of their own homes. Both courses of action are equally brave! TO ARMS, MY KEYBOARDING BRETHREN!!!!

UPDATE: After making a call to the Springview PD, I have since learned that the Chinese have not invaded and that the incident in question was merely the grand opening of a new Panda Express at the local shopping mall. All the same, this does nothing to refute the accuracy of my original report.

Unlike you sense, I can have a bit of fun at the expense of simpletons like you, and what doubles it down, is you do not even know when someone is fucking with you.

LMAO, Lame does even begin to describe that piece of BS you're trying put over.

Rationalizations thy name is Halfwit.

The most detail explanation of the contradictions are found deep in the equations.

Not at all true. Sorry to be blunt, but there are no contradictions between relativity and quantum mechanics in the equations that I know of. I'll freely admit that I'm not at the same level as by twin - a PHD in particle physics - but I have a fair grasp of it from my undergrad degree (Math/Physics).

The simplest way to put is that what works big should also work small. In other words physical laws should be consistent not matter what level you are considering.

It does seem paradoxical to common sense, but the equations, not contradicting, actually show why this is not true. There's kind of a fitting balance in that, that common sense would feel that the equations are wrong or contradictory, while the equations show that common sense is wrong about that as well as the mystical "as above so below."

Again, sorry to be blunt but the author of the article has no practical understanding of quantum theory. To be fair, no one really intuitively understands it - but many do understand the equations.

This has not turn out to be the case were particle behavior predicted by Quantum Mechanics is in conflict with principles found in Relativity. Scientist have been trying for years to reconcile the two theories into one unified theory.

WP if you are really really interested here's a short crib sheet version of the conflicts in modern physics:

Contradictions in Modern Physics

Not at all true. Sorry to be blunt, but there are no contradictions between relativity and quantum mechanics in the equations that I know of.

Sorry to be blunt, but I find it breathtakingly astounding that you claim that there are no contradictions when, for nearly a century, it has been the work of theoretical physicists to reconcile Quantum Mechanic with Relativity into a single unifying theory.

Again, sorry to be blunt but the author of the article has no practical understanding of quantum theory. To be fair, no one really intuitively understands it - but many do understand the equations.

The article was both written, edited. and reviewed by physicists. They have a better understanding of Quantum Theory then I do and I suspect a better understanding than you.

To say there are no contradictions between Quantum Theory and Relativity when nearly every physicist is working to resolve those contradictions is just an obtuse denial of facts.

Sorry to be blunt, but I find it breathtakingly astounding that you claim that there are no contradictions when, for nearly a century, it has been the work of theoretical physicists to reconcile Quantum Mechanic with Relativity into a single unifying theory.

You should re-examine your assumptions then. The search for a unifying theory doesn't mean there are contradictions.

The article was both written, edited. and reviewed by physicists.

No it wasn't. It was written by a layman. A not very knowledgeable one.

To say there are no contradictions between Quantum Theory and Relativity when nearly every physicist is working to resolve those contradictions is just an obtuse denial of facts.

Show me a contradiction then. The wave-particle duality isn't a contradiction incidentally, and is one big clue that the author is ignorant of physics.

Show me a contradiction then. The wave-particle duality isn't a contradiction incidentally, and is one big clue that the author is ignorant of physics.

If you bother to look at the list of scientist who contribute to the website you wouldn't have made a such mind-numbly stupid statement.

Anyway here's another article to look at:

The Relativity/Quantum Mechanics Conflict

If you don't like it, you can join to forum and argue with the author. This is my last word. I have found it pointless to argue with obtuse, arrogant, condescending stupidity.

f you don't like it, you can join to forum and argue with the author.

In my judgment the arguments of that article isn't worthy of participation. There is no shortage of oddball ideas with little or no theoretical basis - such as that one. He thinks Einstein made a "fundamental mistake" by applying Lorentz contractions!

This is my last word. I have found it pointless to argue with obtuse, arrogant, condescending stupidity.

Since I am not stupid, and am educated in the subject, that may be a clue that your understanding is lacking. It is difficult to reconcile the theories - superstring theory was one such attempt- but that does not mean the theories contradict, nor that one or the other is wrong.

You might have referred to separation distance for causality as opposed to the collapsing wave function, which might be construed as "contradicting" with enough mental gymnastics. That's held to be more of a question than a contradiction but I probably would have indulged my forgiving nature had you sought that way out. But you simply point to crap articles and posts.

I thought you might have seen something and was genuinely interested if that was the case, which was why I asked.

It is difficult to reconcile the theories - superstring theory was one such attemnpt- but that does not mean the theories contradict, nor that one or the other is wrong.

Just one question, If there are no contradictions between the theories then why do the have to be reconcile?

Just one question, If there are no contradictions between the theories then why do the have to be reconcile?

Thank you. In a nutshell things still need explaining.

For example, postulate a graviton. As we understand it, gravity effects as a field (as do other forces). But try to use quantum theory - a quantum unit of gravity, all according to quantum field theory which is derived in accordance with special relativity. The mathematics comes out nonsense, with particles having infinite properties. The math doesn't work - the ideas are there but not the math.

We don't really know what gravity is. How does one mass attract another - such a simple question but we don't have the answer. Falling apples and curved space analogies and such may satisfy us at first, superficially, but none of that actually explains it.

We want gravity to be explicable somehow in terms of other interactions. Strong and weak nuclear and electrical. It would present a symmetry and kind of balance that we instinctively crave. It would simplify everything. But there is no guarantee, no real physical reason why there must be a unified field theory, if only we could see it. There is a small possibility that there isn't any, that the universe doesn't work that way.

Either way, what you're asking is from the realm of the unknown. Your question is just another way to phrase it.

For example, postulate a graviton. As we understand it, gravity effects as a field (as do other forces). But try to use quantum theory - a quantum unit of gravity, all according to quantum field theory which is derived in accordance with special relativity. The mathematics comes out nonsense, with particles having infinite properties. The math doesn't work - the ideas are there but not the math.

Don't look now but what you are describing is a contradiction. I am not sure why you're afraid of the term. If you feel more comfortable, use the word paradox, means the same thing.

The original point was that no scientific theory represents absolute immutable truth and no reputable scientist would say it does. Theories are attempts to explain observations in the natural world and are subject to continual test, review, and revision.

Speaking of Quantum Field Theory here's another insteresting article:

Was Einstein Wrong?: A Quantum Threat to Special Relativity

You have to subscribe to Scientific America to get the rest of the article.

Don't look now but what you are describing is a contradiction. I am not sure why you're afraid of the term. If you feel more comfortable,

I probably infer a more precise meaning from the term, in a scientific sense. The theories coexist without irreconcilable differences, where you could say "if theory A is true, then theory B must be false." There is no emotional component involved.

The original point was that no scientific theory represents absolute immutable truth and no reputable scientist would say it does. Theories are attempts to explain observations in the natural world and are subject to continual test, review, and revision.

Immutable truth is not within in the dom*ain (spam) of scientific inquiry. There are however falsifiable propositions, which may be confuted once and for all.


Believe it or not, but I decided against a career in Physics precisely because everything you learn must be encapsulated within its context, and as you learn more, always superseding or completely replacing your prior knowledge you find that the scope becomes ever smaller. You delve ever deeper into successively narrower subjects. Nothing wrong with that, just not my cup of tea.

why don't you cite a couple of legitmate(sic) scientists that don't think that "theory" is wrong.

Obviously you never read or never comprehend the following statement:

Even Einstein’s Theory of Relativity is undergoing review. The chief problem with the theory is that it clashes with Quantum Mechanics. Both theories have been validated by experiments but paradoxically they contradict each other.

Ya know Mumbles I try really hard to be civil with you but you are such an obtuse dumbass that it would try the patients of God.

What is paradoxical is that you take that sentence on face value, on faith, that it means exactly what you think it does - and yet you haven't a clue about what they're talking about.

When someone who does have a clue attempts to explain it to you, you call them stupid.

I wasn't referring to you WP. It was in response to Mumbles. I just posted on the wrong thread.

My apoligies.

I realized that after reading the other thread, and honestly feel a bit stupid. My apologies as well - and fwiw our arguing about quantum physics is pointless and a little preposterous. Neither of us are experts nor are likely to be mistaken for one.