Comment from: myballs [Member] Email
here's a random thought...

it boggles the mind that the network news executives cannot figure out how to slow the exodus of viewers all the while they continue to put democrat supporting liberals on camera.

tim russert, we miss you.
07/26/10 @ 20:04
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
random thought.

Russert hated partisan, close minded assholes like you.

07/26/10 @ 22:08
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
Totally random thoughtlessness and clueless panic.

I saw a FB ad asking if people thought Sarah Palin could ever be President... and I didn't discount it off hand.

If you want this country to survive, do not just discount it, work actively against it.

07/26/10 @ 23:02
Comment from: commonsense [Member]
Russert hated partisan, close minded assholes

He sure had a lot of them on his show.
07/27/10 @ 06:23
Comment from: commonsense [Member]
If you want this country to survive, do not just discount it, work actively against it.

So says the sage of Southern California who proclaimed Obama as the second coming of Christ when he was really the second coming of Jimmy Carter.
07/27/10 @ 06:27
Comment from: savageette1999 [Member]
Russert hated partisan, close minded assholes like you.
Rich.
07/27/10 @ 06:56
Comment from: savageette1999 [Member]
So says the sage of Southern California who proclaimed Obama as the second coming of Christ when he was really the second coming of Jimmy Carter.
...at least Carter wasn't a pathological liar - a horrible President - but not a pathological liar.
07/27/10 @ 07:00
Comment from: savageette1999 [Member]
We went from a President who sounded stupid even if he was saying something fairly intelligent... to a President who sounds intelligent even while saying somthing really stupid.
...which is what he did, and continues to do, touting his "stimulus" crap sandwich - his summer recovery tour...

Ed Rendell: Rebuild our infrastructure

A National Infrastructure Bank?

How 'bout we just use the leftover funds in the "stimulus" crap sandwich account?
07/27/10 @ 07:17
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
The ADA (Americans With Disability Act) passed 20 years ago today.

It would not pass today. The Republican Party, as it is now constituted, would claim it is an unecessary imposition on business and a "job killer".

It passed by 76-8 in the senate and a unanimous voice vote in the house. President George H.W. Bush thinks it was one of his signal achievements as President.

To see what the Repupblican party has become today, one does not have to look any further.

07/27/10 @ 08:52
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
The term "pathological liar" gets tossed about a lot here. By, pathological liars.

07/27/10 @ 08:53
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
Tim Russert would not have allowed Breitbart and his fellow right propagandists who parade around calling themselves "journalists" to go unchallenged, and take a "Well,the other side says.. " point of view. He would not give true pathological liars like Brietbart a free pass.
07/27/10 @ 08:55
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
Speaking of pathological liars, who needs more proof than this, that this obsessive moron from Floriduhh needs help?

the sage of Southern California who proclaimed Obama as the second coming of Christ

I like sage, it's a good herb, especially with poultry. But the sage of Southern California, as the obsessed stalker puts it, never said anything remotely resembling that. Nor, would a self-avowed atheist say anything like that in the first place.

Just a thought.

07/27/10 @ 09:03
Comment from: savageette1999 [Member]
Tim Russert would not have allowed Breitbart Klein, Krugman and his fellow right left propagandists who parade around calling themselves "journalists" "journOlistas" to go unchallenged.
07/27/10 @ 09:03
Comment from: savageette1999 [Member]
as the obsessed stalker puts it
Rich.
07/27/10 @ 09:05
Comment from: savageette1999 [Member]
Elites may have more brilliance, but they can’t have as much experience as the people whose decisions they preempt.

"Because experience trumps brilliance.

Elites may have more brilliance, but those who make decisions for society as a whole cannot possibly have as much experience as the millions of people whose decisions they preempt. The education and intellects of the elites may lead them to have more sweeping presumptions, but that just makes them more dangerous to the freedom, as well as to the well-being, of the people as a whole."

07/27/10 @ 09:08
Comment from: savageette1999 [Member]
How Bout a Cold Drink?

Rat!

You should save this for January 1, 2011.
07/27/10 @ 09:11
Comment from: savageette1999 [Member]
Nor, would a self-avowed atheist say anything like that in the first place.
Atheism doesn't mean you don't have "tingles".
07/27/10 @ 09:11
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
Deep thoughts on the progress of Bush's war in Iraq and where that country is today.

By one of the most skilled and responsible military writers of our time.

There is no agreement on how to share oil revenue, no resolution of the basic relationship between the country's three major groups, and no decision on whether Iraq will have a strong central government or be a loose confederation. And no resolution on the future place of the Kurds and Kirkuk.



We are leaving, as we should. It is up to them to make it work. But Bush's intent was to set up a stable, self-sustaining government able to manage a very complex nation. I don't think history will be good to him on this either.

Just a thought.


07/27/10 @ 09:12
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
Klein is a journalist who makes forays into opinion making, IOW, he is an old fashioned REPORTER.

Krugman is never, ever,called a journalist, for he is not.

Again, the pathological and self-deceptive twit surfaces to show her true colors and ignorance.

In support of course, of a male conservative who makes her alllllllllllllllllll tingly in ways.

07/27/10 @ 09:14
Comment from: savageette1999 [Member]
07/27/10 @ 09:17
Comment from: savageette1999 [Member]
Klein is a journalist journOlistsa who makes forays into opinion making propagandizing, IOW, he is an old fashioned REPORTER liberal propagandist.
07/27/10 @ 09:21
Comment from: savageette1999 [Member]
Krugman is never, ever,called a journalist, for he is not.
Columnist:

"Pronounced with the 'n', a columnist is a journalist who writes for publication in a series, creating copy that can sometimes be strongly opinionated. Columns appear in newspapers, magazines and other publications, including blogs on the Internet."

From your favorite source.

Link.
07/27/10 @ 09:29
Comment from: savageette1999 [Member]
Again, the pathological
LMAO!

Still can't think up your own material, I see.
07/27/10 @ 09:29
Comment from: savageette1999 [Member]
Deep thoughts on the progress of Bush's America's war in Iraq and where that country is today.
07/27/10 @ 09:30
Comment from: god Reagan [Member] Email
Filed Under:Worst President in History!

Audit: US can't account for $8.7B in Iraqi funds

The audit found that shoddy record keeping by the Defense Department left the Pentagon unable to fully account for $8.7 billion it withdrew between 2004 and 2007 from a special fund set up by the U.N. Security Council. Of that amount, Pentagon "could not provide documentation to substantiate how it spent $2.6 billion."
The funds are separate from the $53 billion allocated by Congress for rebuilding Iraq.

George, Bunker Dick and Rummy belong in prison!
07/27/10 @ 09:39
Comment from: savageette1999 [Member]
Audit: US can't account for $8.7B in Iraqi funds
Old news.
07/27/10 @ 09:43
Comment from: savageette1999 [Member]
"The audit did not indicate that investigators believed there were any instances of fraud involved in the spending of these funds."
07/27/10 @ 09:46
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
The abuse of the filibuster that has been taken to an extreme by the Republicans has effectively changed the senate in ways not envisioned in the constitution.

Random thought:

It should be reformed, to take away the power of the minority to require a supermajority vote on everything that comes before the senate.

07/27/10 @ 09:47
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
No ette, Iraq is Bush's war. He wanted it, he twisted,turned, manipulated and some of his people lied, IMO he did too, to get his war on. He wanted to be a President of consequence, in a warped oedipal sense, and knew just enough about history to know that war time Presidents have consequences. What he did not consider, as far as I can see, the possible negative consequences of such a war, and how that overreach could cause long term damage to this country.

It has done us more harm than good. It did not make us any safer. And that should have been his overidding concern. It was not.

07/27/10 @ 09:58
Comment from: savageette1999 [Member]
The abuse of the filibuster that has been taken to an extreme by the Republicans has effectively changed the senate in ways not envisioned in the constitution.
So, now you're whining about "preemptive" filibusters?

The Constitution allows each house of Congress to set their own rules - tell dingy-the-war-is-lost-reid to stop whining and get to work.

Seems to me you freaks should have thought about this - oh - back in 2009, instead of preening around like a bunch of banty roosters.
07/27/10 @ 10:02
Comment from: savageette1999 [Member]
No, it's America's war - period.

You could get away with saying "Bush's war" if not for the fact that there were a helluva lot of democratics who couldn't wait to get to a microphone to tell the world how unsafe we were with saddam in power.

The mere fact that you progressives don't care that the intelligence was bad is astounding, to say the least.

You'd rather concentrate on W - than on what's really important to our country - and that's our intelligence agencies.

Both wars are America's wars - both of them.

Obama is doing the best he can do with Afghanistan - as did W. The last thing we need is for pak's nukes to fall into the hands of the tali's - W prevented it - and so far - Obama is preventing it.

Stop your whining about Iraq - it's a done deal.

What the Iraqi's do with their new-found "democracy" is up to them.

If they blow it - it certainly isn't a reflection on America - or W in particular - or Obama.
07/27/10 @ 10:11
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
It's not that simple, although as is your style, you think it is.

You don't have a problem with it then, that the minority has effectively amended the constitution in ways the founders never envisioned.

But since the Republicans are doing it, to protect us from socialism, it's ok with you.

Random thought.

You have none.


07/27/10 @ 10:12
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
It's Bush's war, no matter how you want to run from the truth. It was a war of CHOICE, Bush's choice.

07/27/10 @ 10:14
Comment from: savageette1999 [Member]
Typical.
07/27/10 @ 10:21
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
The minority won't even allow an 'up or down' vote.

Random thought.

This isn't what the founders wanted.
07/27/10 @ 10:22
Comment from: savageette1999 [Member]
You don't have a problem with it then, that the minority has effectively amended the constitution in ways the founders never envisioned.
You're an idiot.

Reid could have changed it - he didn't.

Boo-friggin'-hoo.
07/27/10 @ 10:22
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
Typical

and

True


We, the United States, would not be there, if George W. Bush did not put us there.

His choice, his war, his failure. Our people did the best they could. He made it impossible for them to succeed. That's not leadership, that's not success. T

That was ignorance and hubris.



07/27/10 @ 10:24
Comment from: savageette1999 [Member]
The minority won't even allow an 'up or down' vote.
Harry Reid’s Senate: Where Progressive Legislation Goes to Die

From a liberal nutroot -

"Of course, my obvious question was – why didn’t the Senate take up filibuster reform in January 2009? The Republicans had already planned to be total obstructionists, and in fact Democrats had complained about it in 2008 – when they were already shattering filibuster records."


07/27/10 @ 10:27
Comment from: savageette1999 [Member]
He made it impossible for them to succeed
We won, you idiot.
07/27/10 @ 10:28
Comment from: savageette1999 [Member]
Obamateurism of the Day

"Once again, Barack Obama tries to make the case that he feels our pain:"

What a freak, lol!
07/27/10 @ 10:30
Comment from: savageette1999 [Member]
Btw, is dramaObama healing the CA brownouts?

LOL.
07/27/10 @ 10:33
Comment from: god Reagan [Member] Email
Filed Under:Government.
This isn't what the founders wanted.


The founding fathers assumed the representatives would follow the peoples will, not follow the money.
Face it HB, there is class warfare and like Buffet said "they won."
07/27/10 @ 10:34
Comment from: whatta [Visitor]
Michelle Obama has reserved about 30 rooms for herself and her daughter, their friends and bodyguards at a five-star hotel in Benahavis near Marbella, hotel sources said.


ummm, yeah. That is pretty much pain they're feeling. sheezuz....

Hey zerO lapdogs. British PM just flew commercial to save money. Should Barry the Nobel fly commercial instead of pissing off millions per trip on AF1? I say, yes, and let him feel "our pain".
07/27/10 @ 10:39
Comment from: lscottman2 [Member] Email
random thoughts

i like panera bread, i do not like subway;

toy story 3 is a waste of money in 3d, 2d is adequaqte, save the extra money;

up is still the best animated movie;

nba basketball refs are not trustworthy;

the celtics did a long term bad thing getting the big 3, as it is now copied in miami, this concept sucks for the nba long term;

steinbrenner was a convicted felon;

cars are way too complicated to work on these days, i wish i had my 1971 dodge somedays;

breaking up att got us what, verizon? oh boy!;

if you have a chance, see a broadway show. les cage aux folles is amazing;

as is memphis;

i like watching big brother;

07/27/10 @ 10:43
Comment from: savageette1999 [Member]
i like panera bread, i do not like subway;
I like 'em both.

Could eat the subway cold cut combo every dang day - the 6" one -

- - could eat penera french onion soup every dang day.

...but, then again, a Culver's butter burger sounds really good righ now...
07/27/10 @ 11:01
Comment from: savageette1999 [Member]

ummm, yeah. That is pretty much pain they're feeling. sheezuz....
They "feel our pain", lol!
07/27/10 @ 11:03
Comment from: myballs [Member] Email
**No ette, Iraq is Bush's war. **

apparently obama and biden disagree. tey've been trying to take credit for the victor there since they've been in office, in spite of the fact that they both strongly opposed bush's surge that made the difference.
07/27/10 @ 11:40
Comment from: god Reagan [Member] Email
Filed Under:NoBalls desperation.

apparently obama and biden disagree. tey've been trying to take credit for the victor there since they've been in office

That has not even one bit of truth.

Why can't you accept THE FACT that "W" was the worst president in history and move on?
07/27/10 @ 12:04
Comment from: savageette1999 [Member]
apparently obama and biden beavis and butthead disagree. tey've been trying to take credit for the victor there since they've been in office, in spite of the fact that they both strongly opposed bush's surge that made the difference.
Hadadick's an idiot.

saddam's gone - must suck to be a progressive liberal these days...
07/27/10 @ 12:05
Comment from: savageette1999 [Member]
07/27/10 @ 12:09
Comment from: repub_rat_bastard [Member]
Joe Biden butthead update: Iraq one of Obama's 'great achievements'



now that one's going to require a willing suspension of disbelief.




07/27/10 @ 12:13
Comment from: savageette1999 [Member]
Ed Rendell Compares 'The View' to 'Jerry Springer'

Lmao!

I'll bet Jerry Springer has more viewers.
07/27/10 @ 12:18
Comment from: repub_rat_bastard [Member]
Should Barry the Nobel fly commercial instead of pissing off millions per trip on AF1? I say, yes, and let him feel "our pain".


or at the very least not use a seperate jet just for his stupid fucking dog.

07/27/10 @ 12:19
Comment from: savageette1999 [Member]
Why can't you accept THE FACT that "W" Carter was the worst president in history and move on?
Hey, don't blame us - none of us wanna watch "welcome back, carter"...
07/27/10 @ 12:22
Comment from: savageette1999 [Member]
Captain-kickass-Barack-Edward-John-Smith-Obama

Ouch.

(John Edward Smith was the captain of the Titanic...)
07/27/10 @ 12:26
Comment from: savageette1999 [Member]
or at the very least not use a seperate jet just for his stupid fucking dog.
Didja see the pic I linked for you earlier?
07/27/10 @ 12:27
Comment from: repub_rat_bastard [Member]
Didja see the pic I linked for you earlier?


not yet. i'll go look.

07/27/10 @ 12:28
Comment from: repub_rat_bastard [Member]
Didja see the pic I linked for you earlier?


LOL.

perfect.

i don't know how much more america can take of the asshole-in-chief feeling our fucking pain.



07/27/10 @ 12:36
Comment from: repub_rat_bastard [Member]
Thank you, Senator Kerry. Thank you.

It’s rare when we Fiscal Conservatives have as clear a teachable moment as you gave us with your decision to berth the Isabel (pronounced “luxury yacht”) in Newport, RI, instead of Nantucket, MA, where you and Teresa maintain a “cottage”.

Again, we thank you.

And, while we’re at it, we’ll point out that you are a hypocrite of the first rank.





LOL.




07/27/10 @ 12:38
Comment from: god Reagan [Member] Email
Filed Under:Don't Panic — At Least Not Yet

Barack Obama was elected President because the governing philosophy of the last 30 years, arrant Reaganism, had proved itself bankrupt. Reaganism was distinguished by four characteristics--at least, according to its own mythology: the belief that government was "the problem" and so less of it was better, tax-cutting (for the wealthy), deregulation and an insistence on military strength as the primary projection of American authority overseas. These were, in some cases, fantasy attributes.

YOUR WAY DON'T WORK!




07/27/10 @ 12:39
Comment from: whatta [Visitor]
cars are way too complicated to work on these days, i wish i had my 1971 dodge somedays;


I agree. You can hardly get a wrench to fit under the hood these days as well, it is all so packed in there.

Give me back my '72 Grand Prix...lotsa real chrome, and lotsa giddee-up.

Coming home from college one weekend the water pump went out as I was sitting at a light in a small town. I moved it into a nearby parking lot, cadged a ride to a parts store, got the pump and went back and replaced it - with a limited tool set from my trunk...try that without a full mechanics set these days
07/27/10 @ 12:49
Comment from: whatta [Visitor]
YOUR WAY DON'T WORK!


fvcking waaaaaa, you one trick pony.

At least with Reagan and "Trickle Down" we had hope of getting ahead.

With ZerO and "Gush Up" we are just left holding the empty bag as the elite walk away with everything.
07/27/10 @ 12:51
Comment from: repub_rat_bastard [Member]
Senator Collins 'No' on Disclose Act

“The bill would provide a clear and unfair advantage to unions, while either shutting other organizations out of the election process or subjecting them to onerous reporting requirements that would not apply to unions,” Collins’ press secretary Kevin Kelley told ABC News.

“Senator Collins also believes that it is ironic that a bill aimed at curtailing special interests in the election process provides so many carve outs and exemptions that favor some grassroots organizations over others. This too is simply unfair.”



nice try, shitstains.

special exemptions for your beloved unions while everyone else gets fucked.

liberals are the scum of the earth.


07/27/10 @ 12:53
Comment from: repub_rat_bastard [Member]
Give me back my '72 Grand Prix...lotsa real chrome, and lotsa giddee-up.


i'll see your '72 GP and raise you with my '69 GTO.

one of the few regrets i have in life is selling that car.


07/27/10 @ 12:55
Comment from: caliphate4evr [Member]
"Filed Under:Don't Panic — At Least Not Yet"

Are those Klein's thoughts or some other journOlist asshat?

The jig is up idiot
07/27/10 @ 12:55
Comment from: caliphate4evr [Member]
I still say my '69 4-4-2 would smoke your ass
07/27/10 @ 12:57
Comment from: whatta [Visitor]
So much for the consumer reviving the Oconomy...down deep in the shitter still


Consumer Confidence Index slipped to 50.4 in July, down from the revised 54.3 in June

One component of the Consumer Confidence Index, which measures how people feel now about the economy now, declined to 26.1, from 26.8. The other barometer, which measures respondent's outlook over the next six months, declined to 66.6, from 72.7 last month.
07/27/10 @ 12:57
Comment from: repub_rat_bastard [Member]
The latest Census Bureau report provides details of the 2007-08 school year, and it goes far in explaining why we have been experiencing large-scale layoffs of public education employees since then.

In the 2007-08 school year, 48,396,076 students were enrolled in the U.S. K-12 public education system. That was a decline of 45,397 students from the previous year. They were taught by 3,150,061 teachers (full-time equivalent). That was an increase of 7,859 teachers from the previous year.
Defenders of the current system are fond of telling us that children are not widgets and public education is not a business. And they are right. No business in America hires more employees when it has fewer customers.



it takes a fucking union to hire more employees to do less work and serve fewer customers.

fucking parasites.



07/27/10 @ 13:07
Comment from: repub_rat_bastard [Member]
I still say my '69 4-4-2 would smoke your ass


LOL.

i'm sure it'd be close. do you still have the car?


07/27/10 @ 13:07
Comment from: god Reagan [Member] Email
Filed Under:Whatta sucker born every minute.
At least with Reagan and "Trickle Down" we had hope of getting ahead.


How did all that hope work out for ya? You bought into the phony propaganda while the rich got richer at our expense.
Blaming Obama and the democrats don't change that reality. It will never "trickle down."
YOUR WAY DON'T WORK!

07/27/10 @ 13:11
Comment from: caliphate4evr [Member]
"do you still have the car?"

Nope it caught on fire at 120 or so when I was a Gran Sport

lol
07/27/10 @ 13:16
Comment from: caliphate4evr [Member]
*Racing a Gran Spoet
07/27/10 @ 13:17
Comment from: savageette1999 [Member]
“Senator Collins also believes that it is ironic that a bill aimed at curtailing special interests in the election process provides so many carve outs and exemptions that favor some grassroots organizations over others. This too is simply unfair.”
Has she been in a coma for the last 18 months or what...
07/27/10 @ 13:22
Comment from: misplacedmich [Member] Email
Then-Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) was key in adding a $100 million fund to the 2008 Farm Bill to help pay back those late claims. Now, thanks to a renegotiated court settlement known as Pigford II, Congress is close to passing $1.15 billion in compensation for those late filers, which is attached to the war supplemental appropriations bill.

The bill has already passed the House. A Senate leadership aide said Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) planned to hold a vote on the war supplemental appropriations bill this week — perhaps as early as Thursday — with the discrimination settlement funds attached to that bill."

Obama has been helping Shirley Sherrod for many years.



07/27/10 @ 13:24
Comment from: savageette1999 [Member]
It will never "trickle down."
It does if you're not in a union with your bossmasters keeping you solidly in the middle class and lower.
07/27/10 @ 13:24
Comment from: whatta [Visitor]
How did all that hope work out for ya?


Sounds like, for most of us here, it worked quite well.

How well is Gush Up economics working for you? Do you like bailing out the elite with Obamunism?

In a word...IT DON'T WORK...not here, not there, not anywhere, EVER.
07/27/10 @ 13:24
Comment from: repub_rat_bastard [Member]
How did all that hope work out for ya?


i can only speak for myself, but it worked out splendidly.

after 4 years of malaise, foreign policy cowardice, and a general sense of downright despair in america, it was like a breath of fresh air.

thanks to all you union parasite scumbags for returning us to the carter years.

07/27/10 @ 13:25
Comment from: repub_rat_bastard [Member]
Has she been in a coma for the last 18 months or what...


i've never felt that she was the brightest bulb on the christmas tree.

07/27/10 @ 13:26
Comment from: misplacedmich [Member] Email
Ouch, Unexpected lower low in consumer non- confidence.

Sorry, I was hoping for better.
07/27/10 @ 13:26
Comment from: repub_rat_bastard [Member]
Obama has been helping Shirley Sherrod for many years.


up here we just call it what it really is -

reparations.


07/27/10 @ 13:28
Comment from: misplacedmich [Member] Email
I can't recall where I heard it,but....

"Trickle up Poverty" is the obamaeconomic way
07/27/10 @ 13:29
Comment from: misplacedmich [Member] Email
Consumer confidence dipped in July-again over worries about the jobs picture and over income prospects


Obama stated he is just like a regular joe. Regular Joe Obama grossed 5 million last year.
07/27/10 @ 13:31
Comment from: misplacedmich [Member] Email
Oil is MIA in the Gulf, Much Like Obama

Good news for BP is that this mess is going to cost far less then the 20 Billion, Uncle Sam will not be tapping the share owners as much as first believed.
07/27/10 @ 13:50
Comment from: misplacedmich [Member] Email
NOAA will re-open 26,388 square miles of Gulf waters to commercial and recreational fishing


Why are they opening this vast area, well, the MIA Oil spill and ....

"“Today’s decision is good news for Gulf fishermen and American consumers,” Commerce Secretary Gary Locke said. “Following the best science for this re-opening provides important assurance to the American people that the seafood they buy is safe and protects the Gulf seafood brand and the many people who depend on it for their livelihoods.”

07/27/10 @ 13:58
Comment from: misplacedmich [Member] Email
PBS and the Community Organizer

The Left is a group of lying scum.

Lead by the Liar in Chief BO.

This racism on the left did not just happen.

Headlines Parrot is either an idiot of biblical proportions or a liar on the scale of Obimbo
07/27/10 @ 14:07
Comment from: savageette1999 [Member]
up here we just call it what it really is -

reparations.
I'd like to get me some of them...

an'shit.

07/27/10 @ 15:12
Comment from: lscottman2 [Member] Email
finally some good news today!

jack tatum is taking the dirt nap...this mass of flesh, not a human being, becasue a human has a conscious, suffered in his late years, which was so fitting. the unecessary head to neck hit he put on darryl stingley paralyzing him colud never be forgiven, yet stingley did. incredibly tatum was never sorry for the hit.

a true piece of sh*t, and he has a nice room in hell waiting for him, i am sure.

but what do i really think of him...
07/27/10 @ 15:17
Comment from: repub_rat_bastard [Member]
I'd like to get me some of them...

an'shit.



call the scooter store. you're probably due for a new hoveround.

;->



07/27/10 @ 15:28
Comment from: savageette1999 [Member]
lol - damn it - damn it - damn it - !
07/27/10 @ 15:34
Comment from: savageette1999 [Member]
but what do i really think of him...
don't be shy...
07/27/10 @ 15:35
Comment from: savageette1999 [Member]
The new, improved Obama

"You have to hand it to US President Barack Obama. He is relentless. Just when you thought he was shifting gears - easing up on Israel and turning his attention to Iran’s nuclear weapons program - he pulls out a zinger."

Israel is learning what we're learning.

dramaObama is a spoiled, petulant child...it's his way or the highway.
07/27/10 @ 15:42
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
Random thoughts:

20.7% of CNN's viewers are black.

MSNBC: 19.3%.

For Fox News: 1.38%.

Wall to wall "New Black Panther Party threat to voting!!!" does not hurt Fox "News".



07/27/10 @ 15:44
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
There is no agreement on how to share oil revenue, no resolution of the basic relationship between the country's three major groups, and no decision on whether Iraq will have a strong central government or be a loose confederation. And no resolution on the future place of the Kurds and Kirkuk.


If this qualifies as a "victory" I would hate to think how ette would define defeat.

07/27/10 @ 15:47
Comment from: savageette1999 [Member]
If this qualifies as a "victory" I would hate to think how ette would define defeat.
So, in your diseased mind - we lost the war in Iraq?

This is what I said earlier -

"What the Iraqi's do with their new-found "democracy" is up to them.

If they blow it - it certainly isn't a reflection on America - or W in particular - or Obama."

Anyone without a diseased mind can understand how I feel.
07/27/10 @ 15:51
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
Random Thought: What kinda commie bastard believes this shit???

Wages are subnormal if they fail to provide a living for those who devote their time and energy to industrial occupations.

The monetary equivalent of a living wage varies according to local conditions, but must include:

enough to secure the elements of a normal standard of living--

a standard high enough to make morality possible,

to provide for education and recreation,

to care for immature members of the family,

to maintain the family during periods of sickness,

and to permit of reasonable saving for old age."

07/27/10 @ 15:53
Comment from: repub_rat_bastard [Member]
20.7% of CNN's viewers are black.


fo shizzle!



07/27/10 @ 15:54
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
Ettiot, you are an idiot. The war in Iraq was supposed to be part of a greater "War on Terrorism". The other justification was the WMD Bush said Saddam had and was willing to either use, or give to terrarists.

Well, the impact on the "War on Terrorism" was not a winner. How we fought the war, the tactics used, the torture and treatment of prisoners increased the number of terrarists in the world and provide TO THIS DAY, motivation for them.

The WMD? Buwahahahahahahah..

Did not exist.

Now of course, you will dig up your usual cut and paste file of Democrats who believed Saddam had WMD. They made a mistake. They believed President Bush would not lie about something that important. They were wrong. Bush wanted "his" war, HIS war of choice,dragged us along for the ride, killed over 4,000 Americans, injured or crippled a couple hundred thousand, and killed thousands of Iraqi civilians in the process.

Victory my ass.

07/27/10 @ 15:59
Comment from: repub_rat_bastard [Member]
Now of course, you will dig up your usual cut and paste file of Democrats who believed Saddam had WMD.


that list included most of the house and senate armed services committees and the president himself.

They believed President Bush would not lie about something that important.


you shitstains are still peddling that "bush lied" bullshit, eh?

blow it out your ass, fucktard.

i'm not surprised you're a saddam hussein patriot.

oliver stone is going around telling people that hitler and stalin weren't really that bad either.

all you liberals love murderous dictators.

07/27/10 @ 16:10
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
Take a Walk on the Supply Side

We have had the weakest peak to peak recovery from a recession, to the worst recession since the Great Depression. In 8 of those 9-1/2 years, the Republicans were in charge.

Just a thought.

07/27/10 @ 16:16
Comment from: savageette1999 [Member]
Victory my ass.
Diseased mind.

07/27/10 @ 16:16
Comment from: commonsense [Member]
Diseased mind.

Rat handed him his lunch.
07/27/10 @ 16:17
Comment from: savageette1999 [Member]
i'm not surprised you're a saddam hussein patriot.

oliver stone is going around telling people that hitler and stalin weren't really that bad either.

all you liberals love murderous dictators.
Since he can't seem to find anything positive about dramaObama these days - this is what he resorts to...

...it's a disease - really it is.

07/27/10 @ 16:18
Comment from: savageette1999 [Member]
Rat handed him his lunch.
yes, he did.
07/27/10 @ 16:18
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
Poor, poor rat, I sent him into another "HB loves Saddam" tirade.

Don't you ever tire of spouting the same lies over and over again?

I guess not, because you continue to support the pathological liars that got us into a war of choice, that left the UNITED STATES, our nation, no safer than the day it started.

And that, other than to preserve and protect the Constiution of the United States, another task Bush failed to fulfill, was his job one.

Rant on, you racist little liar, rant on.

07/27/10 @ 16:19
Comment from: savageette1999 [Member]
Just a thought.
A piss poor one - but a thought.
07/27/10 @ 16:19
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
The only lunch rat got, was the one I launched at his pathetic, diseased face in the form of a spit.

07/27/10 @ 16:20
Comment from: savageette1999 [Member]
Don't you ever tire of spouting the same lies over and over again?
Rich.
07/27/10 @ 16:20
Comment from: commonsense [Member]
A piss poor one - but a thought.

It wasn't even his thought. Parrot.
07/27/10 @ 16:21
Comment from: savageette1999 [Member]
The only lunch rat got, was the one I launched at his pathetic, diseased face in the form of a spit.
Good God - can't you think of anything on your own?

Oh!

Probably not - diseased mind and all...
07/27/10 @ 16:21
Comment from: savageette1999 [Member]
It wasn't even his thought. Parrot.
lmao - pathetic little fella ain't he?
07/27/10 @ 16:22
Comment from: repub_rat_bastard [Member]
In 8 of those 9-1/2 years, the Republicans were in charge.


LOL.

from '06 to the present day, the dems controlled congress AND the fucking purse strings of this nation, and presided over the fiscal collapse and economic ruin.


Just a thought.


and a feeble and parrotted thought at that.

what you know about civics and economics would fit on the head of a fucking pin.





07/27/10 @ 16:25
Comment from: savageette1999 [Member]
lol
07/27/10 @ 16:31
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
Awwwwwwwwwwwwww, another failed CEO losing.

A new Public Policy Polling survey in California shows Sen. Barbara Boxer (D) leading challenger Carly Fiorina (R), 49% to 40%. Two months ago, Boxer held a three point lead.


Politicalwire
07/27/10 @ 16:40
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
Yawn.. Bush was POTUS, it was his budget.. nice dodge, liar.

That does not change the data points.

Weakest recovery from a mild recession in history, followed by the Great Recession, the worst Recession since booze was illegal.

Great work there Bushies.. that tax cut, that was supposed to lead to sustained growth sure did a NICE job.

The top 1% of U.S. households own nearly twice as much of America's corporate wealth as they did just 15 years ago.

Despite the financial crisis, the number of millionaires in the United States rose 16% to 7.8 million in 2009.

Approximately 21% of all children in the United States are living below the poverty line in 2010 - the highest rate in 20 years.

The top 10% of Americans now earn around 50% of our national income.

Paradise.. just paradise.


07/27/10 @ 16:46
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
Random Thought.

Another blown opportunity or Republicans.

With the Birthers, Teabaggers and xenophobes, you guys have the corner on wingnuttia. "The independents R coming" sed rat.

This ain't gonna woo independents.

Keep up the good work, LOONS!
07/27/10 @ 16:52
Comment from: repub_rat_bastard [Member]
Yawn.. Bush was POTUS, it was his budget.. nice dodge, liar.

That does not change the data points.


coldheart and i have schooled you on this shit more times than i can count.

Great work there Bushies.. that tax cut, that was supposed to lead to sustained growth sure did a NICE job.


it did a fine job until dodd and fwank decided that every parasite in america needed to buy a house they had no intention of paying for.


The top 1% of U.S. households own nearly twice as much of America's corporate wealth as they did just 15 years ago.


where did you pull that tidbit from. the center for liberal redistribution of wealth? envy is one of the seven deadly sins, asshat.


Approximately 21% of all children in the United States are living below the poverty line in 2010 - the highest rate in 20 years.


tell laquisha and shaniqua to keep their fucking legs closed. there's a 70%+ out of wedlock birth rate in the black community. now there's something for the naaclp to focus on instead of playing the race card.

all those evil rich that you love to berate?

their the only hope your assclown of a failed president has to get this economy moving again.

reminder - there is one-point-eight-fucking trillion dollars sitting on the sidelines right now thanks to your dear leader.

and you can expect that stockpile to grow.

07/27/10 @ 17:03
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
Random Thoughts:

This is all Obama's fault. k'putz says so, rat says so, so it has to be true.


The "jobless recovery" is in fact a realignment of the US labor force. Fewer and fewer employees are needed to produce durable goods. As this situation has progressed, the durable goods workforce has decreased as well. This does not mean the US manufacturing base is in decline. If this were the case, we would see a drop in both manufacturing output and productivity. Instead both of those metrics have increased smartly over the last two decades, indicating that instead of being in decline, US manufacturing is simply doing more with less.


A slightly more serious "Random Thought".

If the last 20 years are our guide to the near future, the days of 5%-6% unemployment in a 'good' economy are probably behind us for some time.

07/27/10 @ 17:07
Comment from: repub_rat_bastard [Member]
Another blown opportunity or Republicans.


authored by MSDNC. employer of various and sundry journO-list tools.

LOL!

ohhhhhhhhh nooooooooo...

...i'm getting a tingle in my leg!



07/27/10 @ 17:09
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
Speaking of lies, the CRA is not the cause of the bubble.

I do not berate the rich, or blame them for taking what they can get. What I do not like, and you do for some unfathomable reason, as you will NEVER be one of the rich, you think it's a good thing for them to continue to increase their share of the total wealth of the US, to the detriment of the middle class. It has been abundantly clear, that you believe people, other than yourself of course,who make a decent middle class income are freeloaders and a drag on the system.

The rest of your rant on sideline money, while true to a point, is not the fault of Obama. It is far more complex than that, but you are addicted to simple one liners, because again, you are not capable of thinking outside the little right wing, flea infested, racist box you inhabit.

07/27/10 @ 17:12
Comment from: repub_rat_bastard [Member]
indicating that instead of being in decline, US manufacturing is simply doing more with less.


no shit, sherlock.

why the fuck do you think corp profits are soaring?

it's not top-line growth, it's bottom line efficiencies and cost-cutting.

read something other than MSDNC and josh the asshat once in a while.


07/27/10 @ 17:13
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
The Boehner had better put off measuring the drapes for now.

"The Democrats' six-point advantage in Gallup Daily interviewing from July 12-18 represents the first statistically significant lead for that party's candidates since Gallup began weekly tracking of this measure in March."


That independent voter sure is fickle. They don't eeem to like xenophobes and Teabaggers as well as many on CHTrooth do.

07/27/10 @ 17:16
Comment from: savageette1999 [Member]
If the last 20 years are our guide to the near future, the days of 5%-6% unemployment in a 'good' economy are probably behind us for some time.
It's just a damn shame dramaObama doesn't care.
07/27/10 @ 17:17
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
Yawn..

You really should read something other than Boortz, NRO and the other sites that do nothing to inform you. But they do reinforce your already held opinions and you use them to convince yourself of your righteousness and correctness of thought.

Dumbshit, I read outside the leftist box. You are the one who is hooked on right wing fumes. You haven't had a thought that Boortz and the like didn't form for you, for as long as I have seen you post.

07/27/10 @ 17:19
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
It's just a damn shame dramaObama doesn't care.


Liar

If you really believe that Obama does not care, you are:

1: As stupid as k'putz.

2 A close minded, self-delusional, partisan hack.


07/27/10 @ 17:20
Comment from: savageette1999 [Member]
07/27/10 @ 17:23
Comment from: savageette1999 [Member]
07/27/10 @ 17:24
Comment from: savageette1999 [Member]
If you really believe that Obama does not care
If he cared, he would have given us an actual "stimulus" package.
07/27/10 @ 17:25
Comment from: savageette1999 [Member]
Americans know he doesn't care - that's why we have this -

President Obama Job Approval

ouch - negative threeeeeeeee.threeeee
07/27/10 @ 17:27
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
As I actually listen to some right wing bloviators, I found something the other day particularly amusing in the depths of it's stupity.

The raving loon, I do not know which one, they all spout the same drivel, said he did not understand, how any of the "anti-capitalists liberals' who work for SiriusXM radio could stand to work for a company that ... makes money!

I see the same kind of illogical bs fly off this blog on a regular basis. Except for the fringe, and I do mean the far fringe, there are next to no anti-capitalist liberals in any position of power or influence. I am not anti-capitalist either. I have NO problem with a company making goods, providing services, or making money in a myriad other fashions.

I know that profit motive capitalism is not a system of government. They have two different functions in a society.

So put that canard down, do not pick it up again, do not pass go, and do not collect $200 the next time you spout that lie. Just go directly to liars jail.

And grow the hell up.
07/27/10 @ 17:28
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
1: As stupid as k'putz.

2 A close minded, self-delusional, partisan hack.


If he cared, he would have given us an actual "stimulus" package.

I was afraid of this.

Both are true.


07/27/10 @ 17:29
Comment from: savageette1999 [Member]
"The Democrats' six-point advantage in Gallup Daily interviewing from July 12-18 represents the first statistically significant lead for that party's candidates since Gallup began weekly tracking of this measure in March."
Let's try a more current gallup, shall we?

What's this?

They've fallen to a four point lead?

Imagine that. Hadadick posting an old poll.
07/27/10 @ 17:30
Comment from: savageette1999 [Member]
I was afraid of this.
You're always afraid of something, little wussy.

Now, as you can see, dramaObama isn't fooling anyone but you.

I know it's painful - perhaps you should start your own little support group - like the journO-listas - you could call yourselve -

swillswallower0-listas!
07/27/10 @ 17:33
Comment from: savageette1999 [Member]
And grow the hell up.
Rich.
07/27/10 @ 17:33
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
For the good of the party and country, I have to agree.

Freshman Democratic Rep. Walt Minnick of Idaho called on Rep. Charles Rangel to resign, becoming the second lawmaker in his party to call for the embattled New York Democrat to leave Congress.

In an interview, Minnick said, “Now that the investigation is complete, and provided the facts are as alleged, I think it’s clear that he should resign from Congress.”

Ohio Democratic Rep. Betty Sutton also called for Rangel to resign in advance of a public adjudicatory subcommittee hearing Thursday.


Rangel is trying to negotiate a deal as I write. He's a hell of a guy, and a fine American. But he got too comfortable, to .. self-important, and should just fade slowly, slowly away.

It is probably hard for him to see, but it would be the best thing for his legacy as well.


07/27/10 @ 17:34
Comment from: god Reagan [Member] Email
Filed Under:HB's Blasphemy
I know that profit motive capitalism is not a system of government.

You will never convince the Reagan loyalist of that.
07/27/10 @ 17:34
Comment from: commonsense [Member]
So Halfwit where's the "stimulius"? Unemployment is still 9.6%. Obama said it would never go pass 8%.
07/27/10 @ 17:35
Comment from: repub_rat_bastard [Member]
Republicans are winning over voters who are disgruntled with both parties.


that's what i've been trying to tell our resident hackwit.

07/27/10 @ 17:35
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
Ettte, you are such an idiot.

I mean it, such a blind, partisan idiot. Lost in right wing world.

You defend your racist pals. You make up shit as you go along, and well, are a twit.



07/27/10 @ 17:35
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
Dave Weigel joins the staff at "Slate".
07/27/10 @ 17:38
Comment from: caliphate4evr [Member]
"I do not berate the rich, or blame them for taking what they can get."

lmoa

You're inferiority complex toward others that are more successful is displayed daily. Now go dig a ditch
07/27/10 @ 17:39
Comment from: repub_rat_bastard [Member]
Dave Weigel joins the staff at "Slate".


perfect.

he'll fit right in with some of the other mindless twits like dahlia lithwick, their legal "genius".

LOL.

journO-listas get all the cushy gigs.

no thought required. just stick to the script and repeat the narrative.

ooooohhhhh.

my leg is tingling again.

LOL.


07/27/10 @ 17:43
Comment from: misplacedmich [Member] Email
http://wikileaks.org/

The Left is so proud.
07/27/10 @ 17:43
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
Senseless, must you be schooled again?

Obama decided a stimulus was needed. Good.

He formed the package, with the aim of gathering at least a bit of Republican support. It ended up smaller than it should have been, with more of it in tax cuts than in direct stimulus spending, in hope of gaining that support, that in the end, never came. So they passed a bill smaller than it should have been, and less stimulative than it should have been.

The follow up should have been another bill, to fix the shortcomings of the first bill. Well, time and political circumstances changed. It became politically impossible to pass another stimulus bill that would have fixed some of the shortcomings of the first one. Krugman and I tried to tell him, but.. he did not listen.

As to the predictions of 8% that ended up being 9.2% or higher, well, the true depths of where the Great Bush Recession would take us were 'misunderestimated'. While there is no doubt that the stimulus helped, saving millions of jobs, creating a 2-3 million more, that simply was not enough to make up for the Great Bush Recession.

Crystal balls are sometimes quite murky. The future isn't as clear as one might wish. But if our system wasn't intentionally being used to make SURE that unemployment isn't properly addressed, which plays into Republican hands, yes, Republicans are that cynical and diabolical, a rational system would have passed another bill to address the shortcomings of the first.

That however, would not help the bastards in the minority,so they said FUCK the country, we want to WIN in November. So we will do our best to assue that millions of americans,who otherwise could have been employed, are not going to be employed, and may be persuaded to vote for us.

And that, is the coldheartedtruth.

07/27/10 @ 17:49
Comment from: repub_rat_bastard [Member]
What I do not like, and you do for some unfathomable reason, as you will NEVER be one of the rich, you think it's a good thing for them to continue to increase their share of the total wealth of the US, to the detriment of the middle class.


you insufferable asshat.

that's the differnce between you and me and why i could never be a liberal.

i simply do not envy others for their achievements or the wealth they have created for themselves. it's just not in my DNA. rich folks did not hit life's lottery nor are they "more fortunate."

they fucking work hard, most are small business owners, run s-corps, etc. and all you cocksuckers want to do is bleed them fucking dry.

that's the problem with liberals -

they produce nothing and rely on seizing everything they have.

parasites.



07/27/10 @ 17:49
Comment from: misplacedmich [Member] Email
"I do not berate the rich, or blame them for taking what they can get."

Someone has changed their ways, what caused this change, is it hope?
07/27/10 @ 17:56
Comment from: misplacedmich [Member] Email
How are all of the hold Obama harmless liberals doing today?

07/27/10 @ 17:58
Comment from: misplacedmich [Member] Email
"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap around women for five years because they didn't wear a veil. You know guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway, so it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them."

Obama's new War General in charge of Afgan/Iraq wars.


07/27/10 @ 18:00
Comment from: opiespa1 [Visitor]
"my leg is tingling again."

LOL"

Like when you and your buddy cheat on taxes and blast kerry for doing the same thing.....like that Rat?
07/27/10 @ 18:02
Comment from: misplacedmich [Member] Email
There you have it CS, the reason the economy today is the way it is, is because the Republicans did not support Obama's spending needs.

I know, it is beyond laughable looney liberal logic, it is however perfect RULES.
07/27/10 @ 18:03
Comment from: opiespa1 [Visitor]
and all you cocksuckers want to do is bleed them fucking dry."

Yep...paying their fair share sure seems equitable to me....unlike your NY Lawyer parking his boat in Newport to avoid taxes.....I'd bet he's self employed, and being a lawyer to boot, ain't that irony, Rat...
07/27/10 @ 18:04
Comment from: misplacedmich [Member] Email
5%-6% unemployment in a 'good' economy are probably behind us for some time."


2001 4.76 Bush, G.W.
2002 5.78
2003 5.99
2004 5.53
2005 5.08
2006 4.63
2007 4.61
2008 5.76
2009 9.26 Obama
MiseryIndex

Remember when the left ran on how bad the Bush years were, I do.

07/27/10 @ 18:07
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
You're inferiority complex toward others that are more successful is displayed daily.

That's funny.

I know people more successful, at least in a professional or economic sense, we all do. I don't envy them. I fully understand what it took to get where they are. I give assholes like you shit, because, simply put, you are an asshole.

You claim to make more money in a week than I do in a month. Pehaps you do, perhaps you do not. It is impossible to tell here. But that does not change the fact, that you are an asshole!

07/27/10 @ 18:08
Comment from: misplacedmich [Member] Email
Opium, you support Kerry's tax dodge?

Answer A = Yes
Answer B = No

07/27/10 @ 18:10
Comment from: misplacedmich [Member] Email
You're inferiority complex toward others that are more successful is displayed daily.

That's funny spot on.
07/27/10 @ 18:11
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
k'putz, I have no problem with anyone who does not break the law. What Kerry does is legal. I have no opinion, or any problem with it.

You do, for some stupid fucking reason that makes no sense to anyone with a lick of sense.

07/27/10 @ 18:13
Comment from: opiespa1 [Visitor]
Opium, you support Kerry's tax dodge?"

I support you fucking yourself.
07/27/10 @ 18:13
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
k'putz, your inferiority complex in regards to your lack of intelligence is on display daily here, as you troll for comments with inane questions.

The inferiority complex is understandable in your case. The stupidity, well, you just can't fix stupid. Sorry, you are stuck with it.

07/27/10 @ 18:15
Comment from: misplacedmich [Member] Email
Opium, you support Kerry's tax dodge?

hb [Member] Email
I have no problem with anyone who does not break the law. What Kerry does is legal.


hmmmmmmmmmmmm
07/27/10 @ 18:15
Comment from: misplacedmich [Member] Email
BP Tax Lawyers announce the tax write off of 10 Billion in US Taxes for oil cleanup.

07/27/10 @ 18:17
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
Opie, did you say you want k'putz to perform an impossible sexual act upon himself, using the Cheney Method?

What a great idea!

I am happy that this format does not allow us to see it live, even though it would probably have some amusing aspects to it.


07/27/10 @ 18:18
Comment from: opiespa1 [Visitor]
What a great idea!"

I figured since he claims to be a farmer, that he probably had plenty of experiance with baby goats....
07/27/10 @ 18:22
Comment from: caliphasteincapecod [Visitor]
You claim to make more money in a week than I do in a month.


Actually, I said I'd make more that day than you make in a quarter

lol
07/27/10 @ 18:23
Comment from: misplacedmich [Member] Email
The economic debate has by Obamabots shifted from things being better the the "W" days, to things are not going to be that good for a very long time, hope has left the building.
07/27/10 @ 18:25
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
Actually, I said I'd make more that day than you make in a quarter.

LOLOL.. ok, fine with me.

But you are still an asshole!
07/27/10 @ 18:25
Comment from: opiespa1 [Visitor]
answer c....go fuck yourself.
07/27/10 @ 18:27
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
k'putz, do us all a favor and be truthful.

Change your handle to

ForrestGump

password: I'm not with stupid, I am stupid!

07/27/10 @ 18:27
Comment from: misplacedmich [Member] Email
I figured since he claims to be a farmer


I have never ever claimed to be a farmer.

You are confused, care to try again?

07/27/10 @ 18:29
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
Opie, I lived in Montana for eight years, and it did not aaaaaaaaaaafect me one bit.

really..

Those custom made boots, just a conversation piece.

I swear.

07/27/10 @ 18:31
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
I have never ever claimed to be a farmer.

O
M
F
G

And.. we have a winner!

holy geebus..
07/27/10 @ 18:32
Comment from: opiespa1 [Visitor]
You are confused, care to try again?


Go fuck yourself, again.
07/27/10 @ 18:33
Comment from: misplacedmich [Member] Email
No honest brokers on the Left, just them following Saul's RULES.


I won again today, see ya.
07/27/10 @ 18:33
Comment from: misplacedmich [Member] Email
Tell me HP, when exactly did I say I was a farmer, answer, never.

07/27/10 @ 18:36
Comment from: misplacedmich [Member] Email
Breaking News, HP has a God.
07/27/10 @ 18:39
Comment from: caliphateincapecod [Visitor]
I have never ever claimed to be a farmer.

O
M
F
G

And.. we have a winner!

holy geebus..



He's always claimed to be rancher. There is a differnce
07/27/10 @ 18:45
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
In this context, farmer, rancher, no difference. I know there is.


One raises lambs, screws them and sells them..... at least he does, the others raise crops.

But no matter what, he is still a k'putz.



07/27/10 @ 18:52
Comment from: opiespa1 [Visitor]
rancher. There is a differnce "

I love playing word games....it seems the only thing conservatives have left in their quiver. I don't know about you, it seems the difference between words is size. I guess this time size matters....LOL


Description of rancher: NOUN: 1. One that owns or manages a ranch. - American Heritage® Dictionary

Description of ranch - American Heritage® Dictionary
NOUN: 1. An extensive farm, especially in the western United States, on which large herds of cattle, sheep, or horses are raised.
07/27/10 @ 18:52
Comment from: misplacedmich [Member] Email
He's always claimed to be rancher.


And we now have a real winner.

That is correct. I am a Rancher and as you stated there is a difference.

I don't expect the likes of HalfOpium to know.
07/27/10 @ 18:53
Comment from: opiespa1 [Visitor]
I don't expect the likes of HalfOpium to know.

Go fuck yourself, and a goat.
07/27/10 @ 19:01
Comment from: caliphateincapecod [Visitor]
I don't know about you, it seems the difference between words is size

I wouldn't expect someone fron foookin jersey to know the difference.

Rancher is meat

farmer is vegetables

It ain't land mass
07/27/10 @ 19:07
Comment from: misplacedmich [Member] Email
There is no way that hp or opium are going to admit their error.

They will however post and post about how right they are on a subject they are wrong about.



07/27/10 @ 19:15
Comment from: misplacedmich [Member] Email
HP and Opium lets play match up

Which do you Raise and which do you Grow.


Cattle

Cucumbers
07/27/10 @ 19:20
Comment from: repub_rat_bastard [Member]
unlike your NY Lawyer parking his boat in Newport to avoid taxes


who said he was a NY lawyer?

LOL.

he's from MA.

and for the record, i do not begrudge anyone doing what jon fucktard carry did, save the staggering hypocrisy of it all.

his taxes for thee but not for me asshole attitude is what any rational individual has a problem with.

to seize a gaping tax loophole for one's self while advocating staggering tax hikes for your fellow citizens at every fucking turn is despicable.

07/27/10 @ 19:28
Comment from: misplacedmich [Member] Email
How did we miss this :


"France declares war against al-Qaida"

We can all sleep better.
07/27/10 @ 19:30
Comment from: repub_rat_bastard [Member]
Not Quite the Clinton Solution

In all the talk about returning to the Clinton income-tax tables, I have been confused on one small point: As I remember the Gingrich-Clinton years, the tax raises were followed by spending freezes and caps, and some time later we had balanced budgets, however fragile and temporary.

That compromise of the 1990s now seems to be forgotten: If the Clinton tax tables led to a balanced budget, why does no one believe they will this time around? Why is there so much additional talk of the need for novel VAT taxes, health-care surcharge taxes, and caps off income subject to FICA payroll taxes?

In other words, why is there no talk about the second half of the equation, applying an immediate, across-the-board spending freeze?

What makes the return to the Clinton tax code (if it happens and if it affects everyone equally) really unfortunate is that we are going to be taxing in an L-shaped “recovery” and yet will make little, if any, progress in balancing the books, given that borrowing is still seen as needed “stimulus” and won’t be reined in.

We can see the downward spiral; California and Greece are the models. Spending keeps rising, taxes creep up in response, deficits rise, shrill warnings about the need to cut defense, policing, and other necessary government services begin to be heard, and more taxation is passed to catch up with spending — until the next crisis.


ah, yes.

the part of the clinton years that liberals must ignore. spending caps and freezes that contributed equally to those balanced budgets.




07/27/10 @ 19:39
Comment from: repub_rat_bastard [Member]
"France declares war against al-Qaida"


probably planting trees as we speak so those fucking raghead shitstains can conquer them in the shade.

LOL.


07/27/10 @ 19:40
Comment from: opiespa [Visitor]
his taxes for thee but not for me asshole attitude is what any rational individual has a problem with."

Sorry about the NY Lawyer quip! Should have known that a world traveller like yourself might have a broad group of friends....LOL

I guess all lawyers are just as corrupt as you have bemoaned repeatedly. I find that amusing in that it's okay for your buddy to park is boat in RI, but not for anyone who has a D after his name. I guess with Kerry making good on his Mass taxes, I wonder if your man enough to tell your buddy to do the same thing. Like I said before, you sure talk the talk, but ain't ever seen you take any action!!

Have a great day, folks!
07/28/10 @ 06:53
Comment from: caliphateontheroadtocooperstown [Visitor]
07/28/10 @ 07:15
Comment from: myballs [Member] Email
**I love playing word games....it seems the only thing conservatives have left in their quiver.**

only to an idiot.
07/28/10 @ 07:16
Comment from: myballs [Member] Email
so today the national honorary chairman of the boy scouts of america, aka our wonderful president, is skipping the organization's centennial celebration to do what.....something very important........appear on 'the view'.

this guy truly is the worst president ever.
07/28/10 @ 07:18
Comment from: misplacedmich [Member] Email
Durable Goods Orders
Released on 7/28/2010 8:30:00 AM For Jun, 2010
Consensus Consensus Range Actual
New Orders - M/M change 1.0 % 0.4 % to 4.0 % -1.0 %
New Orders - Yr/Yr Change 15.4 %
Ex-transportation - M/M -0.6 %
Ex-transportation - Yr/Yr 18.3 %


Highlights
The manufacturing sector sputtered in June, according to new durables orders. New factory orders for durable goods in June fell 1.0 percent, following a 0.8 percent drop the month before. The June numbers fell well short of market expectations for a 1.0 percent boost.



Trickle up Poverty
07/28/10 @ 07:52
Comment from: misplacedmich [Member] Email
In Honor of ette -Durable goods orders fall unexpectedly in June

Torn from the headlines of the going in the right direction of the Obama Admin.
07/28/10 @ 07:55
Comment from: opiespa [Visitor]
"only to an idiot. "

Seems name calling is your only forte, another conservative trait. Color me surprised. LOL
07/28/10 @ 08:05
Comment from: god Reagan [Member] Email
Filed Under:Let them eat $hit and die.

Texas Battles Health Law Even as It Follows It

There are more uninsured residents of Texas — 6.1 million and counting — than there are people in 33 states.
07/28/10 @ 08:09
Comment from: opiespa [Visitor]
I found this rather amusting!


The Democrats are the party that says government will make you smarter, taller, richer, and remove the crabgrass on your lawn. The Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then they get elected and prove it.
P. J. O'Rourke


07/28/10 @ 08:14
Comment from: opiespa [Visitor]
amusting....dayum...need new glasses!
07/28/10 @ 08:48
Comment from: myballs [Member] Email
**Seems name calling is your only forte, another conservative trait. Color me surprised. LOL **

this from the author of the following retorts:


Go fuck yourself, again.
07/27/10 @ 18:33

Go fuck yourself, and a goat.
07/27/10 @ 19:01

answer c....go fuck yourself.
07/27/10 @ 18:27

I support you fucking yourself.
07/27/10 @ 18:13


lol. thanks for playing
07/28/10 @ 09:01
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
"The View" interview was pre-recorded.

The worst President ever is the one you spent 8 years on your knees in front of, performing rhetorical fellatio.

07/28/10 @ 09:08
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
What appears to be good news, is nice once in a while.

London, England (CNN) --
One hundred days after an oil well operated by BP ruptured in the Gulf of Mexico, and 13 days after crews finished capping the well to contain the previously-gushing crude, the company's incoming Chief Executive Officer Bob Dudley says the worst may be over.

"I think -- no guarantees -- but I believe there will be no more oil flowing into the Gulf as of the 15th of July," Dudley told CNN's "American Morning" on Wednesday.

Dudley, who BP elevated Tuesday to replaced current Chief Executive Officer Tony Hayward on October 1, said resolving the crisis is "the single-highest priority for BP going forward."

"The only way you can build a reputation is not just by words, but by action," Dudley said. "I picked up that people think that, well, once we cap this well, we're somehow going to pack up and disappear. That is certainly not the case. We're -- we've got a lot of clean-up to do. We've got claims facilities. We've got 35 of those around the Gulf coast. As of this morning, we wrote a quarter of a billion dollars in checks, for claims. There's still more to go. We know that. We haven't been perfect at this. But it's a deep, deep personal commitment from me for BP and the many people in the Gulf coast to make this right in America."

Responding to criticism from the nonprofit consumer advocacy group Public Citizen, Dudley added, "I don't think BP is reckless. Nor do I think we do things to cut corners, nor have we designed wells that are somehow different than many of the other wells in the Gulf of Mexico. But, having said that, we've had a tragic accident and there is no question that we will make some changes going forward, significant changes. And from between now and October, there will be a lot of planning and looking in what we need to do to focus on safety and reliable operations. We're going to learn, not only BP, but the entire industry is going to learn from these investigations."

The toll to the region has been crushing as millions of barrels of oil spewed from a mile below the surface for almost three months.



Video: BP exploiting loopholes?

Video: 'Model of responsibility'?

Video: Life in the Gulf, three months later

Video: Undetectable sand contamination
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By Wednesday, 100 days on, thousands of workers had lost their jobs, sensitive wetlands had been damaged and tourism was at a near standstill.

But the latest evidence supports Dudley's optimism about the stymied oil flow.

The federal on-scene commander for cleanup, Coast Guard Rear Adm. Paul Zukunft, said a fleet of 800 skimmers collected only one barrel of oil Monday. The latest readings showed the containment cap was holding, and there don't appear to be any leaks from the well -- conditions that are essential before it can be permanently sealed.

At the height of the spill, collection vessels were gulping 25,000 barrels of oil a day.

"The task that's laid out before us is very clear right now," retired Coast Guard Adm. Thad Allen, the man in charge of the federal Gulf of Mexico oil crisis response, said Tuesday.

"We have absolute priorities," Allen said, "on killing the well, maintaining the recovery, making sure the oil is all removed and making sure the beaches are cleaned up and that the commitment by BP to the people is met."

Crews are back on track to permanently shut down BP's once-gushing wellhead in the next few weeks, if setbacks are avoided and weather permits.



More at the link.
07/28/10 @ 09:12
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
Random Thought

My guess is, that a significant plurality of CHT "conservatives" agree that Islam is a cult and therefore not deserving of first amendment protection.

Domenico Montanaro writes:

Earlier today we wrote that ahead of next week's Tennessee gubernatorial primary, Rep. Zach Wamp, Knoxville Mayor Bill Haslam and current Lt. Gov. Ron Ramsey were thought to be essentially tied in the polls.

And then there's this video that has surfaced of Ramsey at a July 14th event, questioning whether Islam is, perhaps, a "cult."

"You could even argue whether being a Muslim is actually a religion or is it a nationality, way of life or cult, whatever you want to call it," he said, responding to a question about Muslims that are "invading our country."


07/28/10 @ 09:15
Comment from: opiespa1 [Visitor]
"this from the author of the following retorts:"

That ain't name calling, it is telling a troll to go fuck himself.....geesh....that's pretty basic balls, even for you.

LOL
07/28/10 @ 09:23
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
unfreakingreal.

The Republican Party.

Where a lynching isn't a lynching, and a religion with over 1 billion believers is just a cult.

Be afraid, be very afraid.
07/28/10 @ 09:24
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
Opie, to balls, k'putz isn't a troll. He's a brother.

They are both incredibly blind partisans. The only difference is, and it's not as much as balls wants to think it is, that balls is a bit brighter. But not that much brighter... and is himself, almost as much of a troll.
07/28/10 @ 09:27
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
07/28/10 @ 09:30
Comment from: commonsense [Member]
07/28/10 @ 09:42
Comment from: commonsense [Member]
The Republican Party.

Where a lynching isn't a lynching, and a religion with over 1 billion believers is just a cult.


Lord was wrong. So are the asshole drama queens that tried to make more of it than it really is.
07/28/10 @ 09:54
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
Well, as a southern cracker, I am sure you find the murder of a man under the color of law, wasn't that big of a deal.

Color me not surprised.

07/28/10 @ 09:59
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
LMAO.. yeah..

merely beaten to death.

Ya know, this whole thing is ugly. But I guess it's part of who we are as a nation. But Lord's comments, how friggin' dumb can someone get?

Shit, I am old enough to remember Selma and even have some faint memories of the early days in Little Rock, bus boycotts, etc. And we have come a long, long way as a country and a people. When I see this though, I sometimes wonder how in hell we did it.

But, we did.

07/28/10 @ 10:09
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
rat wishes he could be there!!

An e-mail alert sent to area newspapers last week announced that a one-hour "singing – praying – patriotic rally" will begin at 12:30 p.m. July 30 at the Islamic Center’s existing facility. The advisory – sent by a leader of a conservative coalition that has been active with Republican and Tea Party functions – recommended participants "bring your Bibles, flags, signs, dogs and singing voices."

"We will not be submissive," the notice proclaimed. "Our voices are going to be heard!" The alert went on to question what its authors described as Islamic beliefs. It suggested that participants sing during the rally because Muslim "women are forbidden to sing." It suggested that rally participants bring dogs because Muslims "hate dogs."


Woof woof.

07/28/10 @ 10:24
Comment from: whatta [Visitor]
'nother article about the failure of Oconomics

"...the policy changes on health-care and financial services that have emerged from the current crisis, plus the largest tax increase in history that will hit Jan. 1 without Congressional action, are restraining companies, especially mid-to-small-sized ones.

Atlas didn't shrug; he's sitting on his hands—and his wallet [while he confronts regulatory and tax uncertainty.]

That is the message heard repeatedly from entrepreneurs, their private-equity investors and their wealth managers."
07/28/10 @ 10:35
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
Whatta, as you know, uncertainty gives people the jitters. But, there is also this. What people think may happen and drives them to be cautious, is quite often overblown.

In reagards to marginal tax rates, even if every one of the Bush tax cuts expire, as they should, the rates will still be significantly lower than they were in the 1980's under Saint Ronaldus Maximus.

The other issues, the new HCR and financial regs, well, my opinion is, the fears on those too are overblown. I am not surprised by this. The uncertainty is real, no doubt. But it is also driven by the Republican party and their overblown, over the top, "OBAMA IS A SOCIALIST" rhetoric. The political cynic in me sees that while a hanful of Republicans actually believe their own bullshit, most of them know damn well it's bs, but nevertheless, they are willing to use it for their own political gain.

Why am I such a cynic? Well, experience, having seen it for a long, long time, and then this, when a Republican accidentally tells the truth.

Sen. Mike Johanns (R-NE) said: I don't know a single Senator in Washington who didn't want to see these benefits extended,"

He is one of those who argued against them, saying they should be paid for. Laughable at it's face, because they want to keep the Bush tax cuts and NOT pay for them. But he knows that the extention is popular, and probably in his heart knows it was the right thing to do, to extend them. But for political reasons, he could not support them.

07/28/10 @ 10:46
Comment from: repub_rat_bastard [Member]
And then there's this video that has surfaced of Ramsey at a July 14th event, questioning whether Islam is, perhaps, a "cult."


what a dumb fuck.

of course it's a cult.

and a sadistic murderous cult at that.


07/28/10 @ 11:12
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
rat, well gee, I am not surprised that you would not think Islam is a religion and is by that, protected by the Constitution. You find a lot of ways to go around that document, when it fits your sick, twisted ideology.



Your intolerance and adherence to pre-enlightenment belief systems is duly noted.

again

sick bastard
07/28/10 @ 11:26
Comment from: god Reagan [Member] Email
Filed Under:Dissent will not be tolerated!

Ariz. sheriff: I'll jail immigration protesters
07/28/10 @ 11:33
Comment from: repub_rat_bastard [Member]
rat, well gee, I am not surprised that you would not think Islam is a religion and is by that, protected by the Constitution. You find a lot of ways to go around that document, when it fits your sick, twisted ideology.


i didn't say anything about constitutional protection.

i simply agreed with the fact that it's a cult.

if we as a nation, are stupid enough to constitutionally protect a sadistic murderous cult that has openly and aggressively declared war on us, then we had better not complain the next time we're attacked.

and spare me the phony sanctimony about my attitude toward constitutional protection.

it was a liberal democrat who stuffed japanese americans into cages during ww2.

you clowns love murderous tyrants, eugenics, projecting racism on others while blatantly practicing it yourselves, and oppressing anyone who disagrees with you or poses a threat (real or imagined).


07/28/10 @ 11:34
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
Sigh, you bring up FDR's biggest mistake and say it's all part and parcel of the same thing. As I said, you are one sick bastard, with a reactionary, authoritarian viewpoint, you attempt to wrap in libertarian paper. Anyone can see that your claims of libertarian views is nothing but a false front. You would be much happier in a nation that contained only people that think like you.

Sick mo fo
07/28/10 @ 11:38
Comment from: repub_rat_bastard [Member]
07/28/10 @ 11:39
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
A billion member cult.

This coming from a sick right wing cultist.

Priceless
07/28/10 @ 11:44
Comment from: repub_rat_bastard [Member]
Sigh, you bring up FDR's biggest mistake and say it's all part and parcel of the same thing.


it's just always the one that comes immediately to mind.

history is full of liberal leftist - oppression, fascism, murder, dictator-worship, free mumia, che, mao, oliver stone telling us that hitler and stalin were just misunderstood, neville chamberlain appeasement, presidential assassinations, weather underground bombings, racsim/race baiting and the list goes on and on and on and on and...


liberals are fucking scum, and you get your panties in a wad every time we point it out.

07/28/10 @ 11:46
Comment from: god Reagan [Member] Email
Filed Under:Rat Droppings.
liberals are fucking scum,

What do you base that hate statement on?
Do you wear a tin foil hat to keep the evil liberal thought waves away?
07/28/10 @ 11:50
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
Fuck you rat.

the scum is you.

07/28/10 @ 11:53
Comment from: commonsense [Member]
Well, as a southern cracker, I am sure you find the murder of a man under the color of law, wasn't that big of a deal.

Well, as a left-wing bigot, I am sure you find a way to use a 60 year old murder to justify your bigotry.

No surprise there, none at all. Nor is you justifying the most blatant example of liberal racism in the 20th century. You go girl.
07/28/10 @ 11:57
Comment from: repub_rat_bastard [Member]
Fuck you rat.


ah, struck a nerve!

i know, hackwit, the truth hurts.

which explains why you assholes work overtime to re-write history.




now put on your che' shirt and your mao hat and gitcher fat ass down to phoenix.

sheriff joe has a set of striped pink panties and a tent out in the scorching sun with your name on it.

LOL.



07/28/10 @ 12:01
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
Funny stuff.

As if the repeated trips to Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina weren't clues enough, former Republican Sen. Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania met privately last week with several of his former Capitol Hill staffers to pitch the idea of a presidential bid in 2012.

According to GOP sources familiar with the meeting, which took place last Tuesday in Washington, Santorum conveyed his seriousness about a possible campaign and solicited his former aides for advice.

Though the 2012 Republican field has yet to take shape, Santorum, who lost his 2006 re-election bid by 18 points, would enter the race as a decided underdog (he's the guy who said gay marriage would lead to legal man on dog sex) against better-funded opponents with growing national political operations, such as former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty.
07/28/10 @ 12:04
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
Senseless, keep up the good work. Prove again, time after time, what a loser and willfully ignorant fuckstick you are.

Regards,

HB
07/28/10 @ 12:05
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
If I go through Arizona this year, I will have a picture of Geronimo captioned:

"I want to see YOUR papers."

The reaction may be interesting.

LMAO
07/28/10 @ 12:08
Comment from: commonsense [Member]
I am not surprised that you would not think Islam is a religion and is by that, protected by the Constitution.

The constitution does not "protect" religion. In fact the 1st amendment was quite explicate:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion not prohibit the free exercise thereof.

And long as people legally and peacefully engage the exercise of their religion then the government has no interest.

However when a group of people is directed by a religious organization to make war upon the United States and to kill Americans the United State will exercise it's right of self-defense and will fight those religious organizations who are at war with it.
07/28/10 @ 12:17
Comment from: repub_rat_bastard [Member]
jon fucktard carry capitulates

why is it that an enormous amount of pressure and embarrassment needs to be applied to a democrat to get them to pay their fucking taxes???


07/28/10 @ 12:19
Comment from: repub_rat_bastard [Member]
(he's the guy who said gay marriage would lead to legal man liberal on dog sex)

ftfy
07/28/10 @ 12:20
Comment from: repub_rat_bastard [Member]



beaner crossing



LOL.

well done!
07/28/10 @ 12:32
Comment from: repub_rat_bastard [Member]
The constitution does not "protect" religion. In fact the 1st amendment was quite explicate:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion not prohibit the free exercise thereof.


you have to teach these assclowns everything.


07/28/10 @ 12:34
Comment from: opiespa1 [Visitor]
why is it that an enormous amount of pressure and embarrassment needs to be applied to democrat Rats lawyer friend to get them to pay their fucking taxes???

Come on Rat....Man Up for once!
07/28/10 @ 12:38
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
This lie flew through CHT too. Not surprisingly,there will be no apologies for the lies. The righties can do no wrong. Cheney taught them well. When wrong, attack. When proven wrong again, attack harder! But never, ever admit fault or apologize.

"We noted yesterday the controversy over the Obama administration's reaction to Scotland's proposed release of Lockerbie bomber Abdelbaset Ali Mohment al-Megrahi on compassionate grounds, i.e., the claim that he was about to die. Foreign newspapers quoted a letter from a U.S. Embassy official in London, Richard LeBaron, which said that the U.S. would prefer that Megrahi not be released, but that if he were to be let go, the Obama administration thought it was "far preferable" to free Megrahi than have him transferred to a Libyan jail. On its face, this preference seemed odd; many wondered whether the notoriously pliable Obama administration had used Megrahi's alleged illness as another opportunity for "outreach." But, as I noted last night, the full text of LeBaron's letter had not been made public, so it was difficult to judge. Today the State Department did release the full text of LeBaron's letter. In my opinion, it answers the questions we asked yesterday and reflects credit on the State Department and the Obama administration,"


John Hinderaker: Powerline Blog.

They are usually reliable and wrong. But at least he has some integrity. Pretty rare for a rightie.

07/28/10 @ 12:42
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
Semantics from senseless?

LOL

So you don't like the word "Protect". The Constitution protects religions from being controlled by the state. By prohibiting the establishment of a state religion, which would by its very nature, mean state control, it very much 'protects' religions from governmental control.

When the "State of Islam" declares war on the US, get back to me. Otherwise, you are just doing the jihadists work for them by providing evidence that you are at war with their religion.

Good job, idiot.

Even GWB knew better.

And he's a dumbfuck.
07/28/10 @ 12:46
Comment from: james-new-leaf [Member] Email
Regarding JerryBrownDem's thread on her "Teachable Moment": [Now full]

One of the very best teachable moments we have ever had here is when Savagery and Cali jumped all over Michelle Obama (without checking first as to what she had actually said) for going before the NAACP with an allegedly racist, ranting, divisive diatribe on... on... on... er... on parental responsibility for CHILDHOOD OBESITY!


Yep. Now that was a classic!
07/28/10 @ 12:47
Comment from: repub_rat_bastard [Member]
They are usually reliable and wrong. But at least he has some integrity. Pretty rare for a rightie.


LOL.

yeah, integrity.

let me know when the right wing media develops their very own journO-list.

asswipe.
07/28/10 @ 12:50
Comment from: repub_rat_bastard [Member]
Taxes for Thee but Not for Me

Two thoughts on the Senator Kerry embarrassment. Was it really a “judgement call”? It seems to me a pretty open-and-shut case of tax evasion, in the manner of the Timothy Geithner’s illegal write-offs and FICA avoidance. When an average taxpayer tries to avoid paying sales tax on his car or boat by the sort of machinations that Kerry employed, is the state franchise tax board (or, in some cases, the IRS) so silent?

Second, there is a disturbing pattern here: Those who are most adamant in pressing for higher taxes, rather than emphasizing spending cuts, themselves seem to be the most ready to cheat on their own taxes — think of a Dodd, Geithner, Kerry, or Rangel. That narrative of hypocrisy ties into a larger and disturbing trend: Could it be that leftist populists who rail against the unfairness of the system and activists who call for radical political and lifestyle changes are motivated by a need for psychological exemptions for their very concrete indulgences?

Surely if one were to collate what John Edwards has said about two Americas, what Al Gore has said about frivolous consumption and its effect on the environment, and Tom Friedman’s eloquent warnings about unsustainable Western lifestyles, one would never imagine the thousands of square footage in living space that each sees as essential to his own existence.
07/28/10 @ 12:56
Comment from: james-new-leaf [Member] Email
Judge Blocks Arizona Immigration Law
A federal judge has blocked the most controversial sections of Arizona's new immigration law from taking effect Thursday, handing the Obama administration and other opponents of the law a major legal victory, the New York Times reports.

"The parts of the law that the judge blocked included the sections that called for officers to check a person's immigration status while enforcing other laws and that required immigrants to carry their papers at all times."
--Political Wire
07/28/10 @ 13:02
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
James, DAMN. I had that story, thought I had posted it,but my browser crashed as I sent it.

However, I did hear rat's head explode!
07/28/10 @ 13:05
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
let me know when the right wing media develops their very own journO-list.

Roger Ailes did it quite a while back.

It is called Fox "News".
07/28/10 @ 13:06
Comment from: james-new-leaf [Member] Email
Reid Ahead in NevadaA new Rasmussen survey in Nevada shows Sen. Harry Reid (D) now ahead of challenger Sharron Angle (R) for the first time, 45% to 43%. --Political Wire

Economists Say Intervention Prevented a Depression
wo leading economists "wielding complex quantitative models" say they have proven that the federal government's "sweeping interventions to prop up the economy since 2008 helped avert a second Depression," the New York Times reports.

In a new paper, they "argue that without the Wall Street bailout, the bank stress tests, the emergency lending and asset purchases by the Federal Reserve, and the Obama administration's fiscal stimulus program, the nation's gross domestic product would be about 6.5 percent lower this year. In addition, there would be about 8.5 million fewer jobs, on top of the more than 8 million already lost; and the economy would be experiencing deflation, instead of low inflation." --Political Wire
07/28/10 @ 13:09
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
Applying the proper legal standards based upon well-established precedent, the Court finds that the United States is likely to succeed on the merits in showing that the following Sections of S.B. 1070 are preempted by federal law:

Portion of Section 2 of S.B. 1070
A.R.S. § 11-1051(B): requiring that an officer make a reasonable attempt to
determine the immigration status of a person stopped, detained or arrested if there is a reasonable suspicion that the person is unlawfully present in the United States, and requiring verification of the immigration status of any person arrested prior to releasing that person

Section 3 of S.B. 1070
A.R.S. § 13-1509: creating a crime for the failure to apply for or carry alien registration papers

Portion of Section 5 of S.B. 1070
A.R.S. § 13-2928(C): creating a crime for an unauthorized alien to solicit, apply for, or perform work

Section 6 of S.B. 1070
A.R.S. § 13-3883(A)(5): authorizing the warrantless arrest of a person where there is probable cause to believe the person has committed a public offense that makes the person removable from the United States.


07/28/10 @ 13:09
Comment from: james-new-leaf [Member] Email
Obama to make history with appearance on 'The View'

White House: Obama's appearance is a way to speak to people "where they are"
(CNN) -- President Obama becomes the first sitting president to appear on a daytime talk show when he records a pre-taped interview with the ladies of The View on Wednesday [the segment will air Thursday].

07/28/10 @ 13:16
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
James, no matter who says the stimulus saved us from a Depression, this crowd will deny it to their dying day.

As long as it does not fit their political narrative, they will always, always, toe the party line.

One of the reasons righties tend to have a single method they can all stand behind, is that underneath it all, they have a deep, emotional commitment to resist change. They are therefore, more easily lead, like sheep, to the slaughter.

Organizing liberals is like herding cats.
07/28/10 @ 13:18
Comment from: opiespa1 [Visitor]
"Taxes for Thee but Not for Me"

Ever have an original thought??? Suggest you send that link to your crook of a lawyer friend who has his big boat parked in RI.....it applies to him also....and as far as I am concerned, you are abetting a felon for not turning him in.....Friggin fraud you are!
07/28/10 @ 13:19
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
Opie, it has long been established that rat has no original thouhts outside of calling those who disagree with him "scum" or worse. He leaves the actual thinking and writing to those who have those who can do both.
07/28/10 @ 13:25
Comment from: repub_rat_bastard [Member]
James, DAMN. I had that story, thought I had posted it,but my browser crashed as I sent it.

However, I did hear rat's head explode!


no you didn't. this was expected.

what's also expected is that this will go before the USSC and the AZ law will be upheld in it's entirety.

the last laugh, as usual, will be ours.

LOL.


07/28/10 @ 13:32
Comment from: repub_rat_bastard [Member]
White House: Obama's appearance is a way to speak to people welfare parasites "where they are," in public housing, on the couch, watching daytime tv, and anxiously awaiting that holiest of liberal holy days - the first of the month when the checks arrive.


07/28/10 @ 13:34
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
I rather doubt that even this SCOTUS will let it stand in its entirety. Just because the righties and xenopobic sicko like you stop any rational immigration reform does not mean the SCOTUS will overturn precident, and give the states preeminence over federal law.

That was decided long ago, and this suit will not have standing to change it.

Loser.


07/28/10 @ 13:43
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
The Feds are very likely to succeed in this challenge to key parts of Arizona immigration law.

rat will weep.

07/28/10 @ 13:45
Comment from: repub_rat_bastard [Member]
I rather doubt that even this SCOTUS will let it stand in its entirety.


why?

the very basis of the challenge, that it pre-empts fed law, is demonstrably false.

The Feds are very likely to succeed in this challenge to key parts of Arizona immigration law.


that'll be a hoot since the AZ law is 95% fed law.

but i wouldn't put it past this administration to shoot themselves in the foot on this issue too.


07/28/10 @ 13:48
Comment from: repub_rat_bastard [Member]
oh boy!

gOvernment motors is set to launch the chevy volt.

cost - $41,000.00.

taxpayer's portion of each - $7,500.00


07/28/10 @ 14:02
Comment from: commonsense [Member]
When the "State of Islam" declares war on the US, get back to me. Otherwise, you are just doing the jihadists work for them by providing evidence that you are at war with their religion.

If you ever listen to the clerics running Iran you would have long since realized the "State of Islam" has declared war against the US.

Or did the meaning of "Death to America" somehow skipped that feeble mind or yours.

Idiot.
07/28/10 @ 14:05
Comment from: repub_rat_bastard [Member]
If you ever listen to the clerics running Iran you would have long since realized the "State of Islam" has declared war against the US.


indeed.

back in the 1970's.


07/28/10 @ 14:11
Comment from: misplacedmich [Member] Email
Jane, in your own words express your own opinion on the AZ Judge's Ruling.
07/28/10 @ 14:37
Comment from: misplacedmich [Member] Email
2nd Quarter Investment statements have all been mailed and the net returns for the quarter lost money. This in part can be causing some of the funk in American's Mood.
07/28/10 @ 14:39
Comment from: misplacedmich [Member] Email
HB is again sinking lower, he posts little more then rubber-glue prattle.


Signed your humble Rancher
07/28/10 @ 14:43
Comment from: misplacedmich [Member] Email
Fewer and fewer employees are needed to produce durable goods.


Well, we really do know why fewer employees are needed, there is less being purchased, so the real reason is not some hold blameless Obama parrot rant, but that the US consumer is out smarting the Central Planners.

Buying less is good for the bottom line of the regular American households micro-economic situation.

Did you know that if you make 5 million a year you are not that far removed from the Average American?
07/28/10 @ 14:48
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
LMAO.. the bloviating of some Sunni cleric in Iran, or anywhere else for that matter, is not in any way, shape or form, the same thing as a nation state declaring war on another.

So, again, when there is a "State of Islam", a unified state, that encompases most of the Muslim world, a nation state, not some imam's fantasy state, let me know. Otherwise, cower under your blankies and be afraid to come out till some loud mouth Republican like Newt says you are.

LMAO
07/28/10 @ 15:24
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
like Newt says you are .. safe.

now the sentence is complete and my laughter at your irrational fears and beliefs has settled down to a chuckle.

DUCK AND COVER



LMAO
07/28/10 @ 15:26
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
Arithmetic is too much for one Republican.

To quote someone I know who knows him. "The dumbest fucking politician I ever met." and my friend met plenty of them.

Sen. John Thune (R-SD) -- the fifth highest ranking Republican in the Senate -- has a new plan for lowering deficits, and as you might expect from GOP leadership, it involves zero tax hikes. It does however, involve math and, if his appearance on Fox News last night is any indication, Thune finds math rather difficult. There's really no other way to explain his utter failure to remember the law of diminishing returns when he talked about the benefits of his deficit reduction plan.

Appearing on Fox News, Thune and host Greta Van Susteren discussed the bill's call for the creation of a Joint Committee on Deficit Reduction, tasked with reducing the deficit 10 percent year over year.

"It would be required to find 10% in savings -- 10% of the deficit in savings every budget cycle," Thune said.

"So in 10 years we wouldn't have a deficit?" van Sustern asked.

"Theoretically, yes," Thune replied.



I suspect even the Jolly Rancher can do math better than he.


07/28/10 @ 15:32
Comment from: misplacedmich [Member] Email
Ruthless Frugality

As the average American Family takes further step toward fiscal soundness and readies for the coming storm, we find new terms working into the debate. One poster let us know yesterday that the new normal for unemployment has to remain higher then any year under "W".

07/28/10 @ 15:39
Comment from: misplacedmich [Member] Email
If you live in a 40,000 square foot home for free and fly a private Jet and a private Helo and are driven every where you go by limo and earn 5 million a year.

Can you honestly say you are not that far removed from the Average American?
07/28/10 @ 15:48
Comment from: repub_rat_bastard [Member]
LMAO.. the bloviating of some Sunni cleric in Iran, or anywhere else for that matter, is not in any way, shape or form, the same thing as a nation state declaring war on another.

So, again, when there is a "State of Islam", a unified state, that encompases most of the Muslim world, a nation state, not some imam's fantasy state, let me know.


ok.

and if some moose-limb shitstain pops the cork on a suitcase nuke in downtown LA or some mall in orange county, let me know.

07/28/10 @ 15:55
Comment from: misplacedmich [Member] Email
Jane has not been spouting the new Obimbo poll numbers of late, so as a PSA I will

Gallup
Approval ---- 45%

Disapproval -- 49%

49 Percent Disapproval is a new high for this polling group.
07/28/10 @ 15:57
Comment from: misplacedmich [Member] Email
Because the Stimuless failed and only those that are true Bots do not agree with that point.

Let's look at another poll ( I use gallup because it is the recommended polling data of the left).

Gallup Daily: U.S. Economic Outlook
Getting Worse 63% (that is the same number it was at two weeks after the Stimuless Act became the law of the land)
07/28/10 @ 16:02
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
Actually, the odds against such the event you so badly want to happen, have decreased significantly over the last few years.

Most of the Arab secular states know these religeous fanatics are as much or more of a threat to them, than us.

al Qaeda has had it's capabilities greatly reduced, to the point that they are not likely to be able to pull off any big 9/11 like event, ever.

What they have been good at, is scaring idiots like you. What is ironic, is that it ain't you, you are just another pathetic coward yelling on a blog with at most 10 regular participants, is that the people and ideas you support give aid and comfort to the terrorists be reinforcing their belief that the west is at war with their religion.

As I said, even Bush avoided that trap and he IS a bloody moron. Keep up the good work stupid, and make sure you pull the covers up tight tonite!



07/28/10 @ 16:04
Comment from: misplacedmich [Member] Email
Rat, point to the 9-11 Commission and there statement of when Islamic Terrorism declared war on the US.
07/28/10 @ 16:08
Comment from: misplacedmich [Member] Email
2.1 A Declaration of War


Now why would a poster tell us the exact opposite of what the 9-11 Commission did in their Final Report.
07/28/10 @ 16:12
Comment from: misplacedmich [Member] Email
I am not predicting one, let us be clear, I only point it out because of the increase talk about it and the increase chances of one happening.

"What Does Double Dip Recession Mean?
When gross domestic product (GDP) growth slides back to negative after a quarter or two of positive growth. A double-dip recession refers to a recession followed by a short-lived recovery, followed by another recession."
07/28/10 @ 16:23
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
"Crapulus? Apparently, no.

By former McCain economics adviser Mark Zandi and former Federal Reserve official Alan Blinder.

In Study, 2 Economists Say Intervention Helped Avert a 2nd Depression.

WASHINGTON — Like a mantra, officials from both the Bush and Obama administrations have trumpeted how the government’s sweeping interventions to prop up the economy since 2008 helped avert a second Depression.

Now, two leading economists wielding complex quantitative models say that assertion can be empirically proved.

In a new paper, the economists argue that without the Wall Street bailout, the bank stress tests, the emergency lending and asset purchases by the Federal Reserve, and the Obama administration’s fiscal stimulus program, the nation’s gross domestic product would be about 6.5 percent lower this year.

In addition, there would be about 8.5 million fewer jobs, on top of the more than 8 million already lost; and the economy would be experiencing deflation, instead of low inflation.


07/28/10 @ 16:58
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
hb can hear the scurrying of rat feet, scouring the pages of NRO for a rebuttal to the report published today.

Stage Directions:
scurry scurry sounds..

rat crap on the floor..

ewwwww

fleas..

double ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww..
eewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

scurry scurry..

got to find it, got to find it.

someone has to show that the scum are lying..

wiggling of whiskers.. scurry scurry..

it's got to be here, somewhere. i know i can't refute this, not smart enough.. got to get help from NRO online.

oh noooooooooooooo

The End.

07/28/10 @ 17:03
Comment from: commonsense [Member]
LMAO.. the bloviating of some Sunni cleric in Iran, or anywhere else for that matter, is not in any way, shape or form, the same thing as a nation state declaring war on another.

First off they are not Sunni clerics they're Shiite. Second they actually run the Islamic Republic of Iran.

You are spectacularly ignorant. Hard to believe there's enough energy in your brain to run fingers over a keyboard.
07/28/10 @ 17:09
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
The Islamic Republic of Iran is not stupid like you and has not declared war on the United States.

07/28/10 @ 17:10
Comment from: commonsense [Member]
The Islamic Republic of Iran is not stupid like you and has not declared war on the United States.

Well if you do call invading an embassy (US sovereign territory) and holding American hostages an act of war, how about killing American Marines in Lebanon? Or How about killing American soldiers with roadside bombs. Iranian support for the insurgency in Afghanistan?

They declare war the day they invaded the US embassy.

When are you going to get it through your thick head that Iran has been conducting low level warfare against the United States since 1979.

You're stuck on stupid.
07/28/10 @ 17:28
Comment from: misplacedmich [Member] Email
The Liberals can no longer use the old tired line of Conservatives want illegals in this country for cheap Labor.

In case you missed it, Conservatives are trying to keep them out and if they get here throw them out.

07/28/10 @ 17:42
Comment from: misplacedmich [Member] Email
Well if you do call invading an embassy (US sovereign territory) and holding American hostages an act of war, how about killing American Marines in Lebanon? Or How about killing American soldiers with roadside bombs. Iranian support for the insurgency in Afghanistan?

They declare war the day they invaded the US embassy.

When are you going to get it through your thick head that Iran has been conducting low level warfare against the United States since 1979.


These facts are not on the web pages that poster visits.
07/28/10 @ 17:45
Comment from: misplacedmich [Member] Email
href="http://http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2010/roll473.xml"
The Anti-War crowd just is not what it once was

Hell, Jackson Lee missed this vote.

4 others voted "obama" aka "present"
07/28/10 @ 17:49
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
Oh boy, that happened in 1977 and you still think that way, wow.

I'm no fan of Iran's government, Ahmadinnerjacket or Islam itsel. But unlike you morons, I do not think we have to attack them tomorrow to remain safe. Hell, there are some very smart people on your side, who think that would be totally friggin stupid and lead to a far wider conflict with unknown consequences. But the bottom line remains, we are NOT in a state of war with the Islamic Republic of Iran.

Nor are they, with us.

Playing high stakes cat and mouse, yes they are. And no one, despite what you idiots believe, thinks their intentions are good. At least the intent of the current, what I think is an illegitimate goverment that won the election through massive fraud isn't all sweetness and light. You just THINK that way. But as in most things, you are both stupid and full of shit.

07/28/10 @ 18:06
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
My prediction on the whacked out US conservative response to the report issued on TARP and the Stimulus package.

Most of it will get lost in the politics of the situation. The entire Republican rationale to give them another shot, is that TARP and the Stimulus failed, so we must return to the Bush years economic model. Of course that is stupid, it was the Bush year policies that got us to this point.

Some of it will play out along the lines that "These guys make a LOT of assumptions". Which is true. "All the information isn't in", also true.

And, much of it will be lost on many, beause simply put, unemployment is still at an unacceptably high level. And that prospects for a fairly rapid reduction in the rate is not on the horizon.

But I do believe, if one looks back at 1939, when a cascade of failures was allowed to happen, if we had let that happen again, as quite a few people on this blog wanted to happen, we would be looking at unemployment at rates damn near double what they are now. And the reason the righties on this blog are the most upset? We did not have a recurrance of the Great Depression, an event that probably would have been blamed on Obama. And that now, it is likely, that even though the GOP will have significant gains in the election, they will not take back either house.

That makes them so sad, Party Uber Alles ya know.



07/28/10 @ 18:23
Comment from: caliphate4evr [Member]
When the "State of Islam" declares war on the US, get back to me.

Fat man try to educate yourself, read the Koran and Hadiths find out what Dar al-Harb means.
07/28/10 @ 19:49
Comment from: myballs [Member] Email
and once again, hb show us that he knows absolutely nothing about economics.
07/28/10 @ 20:12
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
I did balls? Hmmm.. I did not really comment except to talk about the politics of the report, you ignored in your rush to insult.

Nothing new from u.
07/28/10 @ 21:02
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
And let us not forget, this blog is filled with self-professed economic geniuses like k'putz. He's the guy who thinks that small businesses never borrow to expand. Oh, and believes crude oil isn't a fossil fuel.

I understand more about economics than most people do, jackass, and as much or more than a hell of a lot of your conservative bretheren on CHTrooth.

07/28/10 @ 23:12
Comment from: repub_rat_bastard [Member]
Actually, the odds against such the event you so badly want to happen, have decreased significantly over the last few years.


sure they have.

and that explains the fuckwit who tried to detonate times square.

you are a fucking idiot.


07/29/10 @ 05:08
Comment from: repub_rat_bastard [Member]
In Study, 2 Economists Say Intervention Helped Avert a 2nd Depression.


2

out of thousands in academia, government and the private sector.

2


you and the ny (LOL) times need to run with that.

2

one more than one. one less than three.

LOL
07/29/10 @ 05:11
Comment from: myballs [Member] Email
*8I did not really comment except to talk about the politics of the report, **

yes you did. you blamed the entire economic situation on bush policies, ignoring clinton deregulating derivitives, ignoring dems in congress forcing banks to lend to lower socioeconomic people who would be unable to pay, ignoring congress blocking bush's attempt to increase oversight of fannie and freddie, ignoring the monetary policies of fed chairman alan greenspan, who is independent of the president.

like i said, you know nothing of economics.
07/29/10 @ 08:38
Comment from: WickedWitch [Visitor]
congress forcing banks to lend to lower socioeconomic people who would be unable to pay


Lies, lies, lies.
07/29/10 @ 08:41
Comment from: WickedWitch [Visitor]
congress blocking bush's attempt to increase oversight of fannie and freddie,


was that a republican congress?
07/29/10 @ 08:45
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
Obama stood up the Boy Scouts to do "The View". Our econ genius says that makes him the "Worst President Ever".

I guess, well, Buchanan, Harding, Bush II, are not in the running, well, probably because they did not stand up the boy scouts.

The logic is flawless, my hat is off.

07/29/10 @ 09:13
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
The CRA did not cause the housing bubble, asshole. It did not. A Republican congressman, recently defeated by a teabagging wingnut like yourself, said that was simply put, incorrect. You cling to it like a life preserver in a flood. It's not true.

You absolve Bush of all blame, blame the congress of 2005, that had a bare one seat majority in the senate and was tied in knots by McConnell, in his cynical ploy, one that works on ignorant, talking point assholes like you and did not allow them to actually pass bills that may have averted some of the worst aspects of The Great Recession. A recession that, if the predictions made by you and others, that the tax cuts would bring us strong, sustainable growth.

I see NO need at all to do as you want me to do, and put all the blame on Obama and his "anti-business" policies. Being at least an amateur student of history, I know that the same arguments you make today, are the same ones used by Republicans throughout recent history. You claim that if only we would let business FREE, economic nirvana would be the result.

Well, we can see what removing the regulatory system that was one of the legacies of "The New Deal" did. It gave us the worst economic downturn since booze was illegal. Yet your "solution" is to return to the policies of Bush and the fucking idiots that put us here.

YOU are the moron, not I. YOU are the total, blind, partisan jagoff, not me.

You petty, arrogant little prick.

07/29/10 @ 09:22
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
Rant amendment:

A recession that, if the predictions made by you and others, that the tax cuts would bring us strong, sustainable growth (were true, would not have happened, but it DID.) But you forgive Dear Leader of all sins.
07/29/10 @ 09:24
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
WW, lies is all balls has. And talking points he gets off talk radio hosted by angry, white, males.

07/29/10 @ 09:25
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
And this thread will soon be full..

kinda funny.

Obama was called the worst ever because he failed to honor the boy scouts.

The complete woes of the world are Obama's fault.

and k'putz remains..

stupid.

some things just do not change.

07/29/10 @ 09:41
Comment from: misplacedmich [Member] Email
it was the Bush year policies that got us to this point.
An Obamabot


RULES dictate that posters post.

Rule 1 Blame Bush
Rule 2 Hold Obama Harmless
Rule 3 Blame Bush
07/29/10 @ 10:22
Comment from: james-new-leaf [Member] Email
Obama stood at minus 4 on the Gallup yesterday (+45 vs. -49).

Today he's at minus 1 only.

+46 job approval
-47 job disapproval

I figgered MissusPlaced would want to hear that.
07/29/10 @ 15:04
Comment from: hb [Member] Email
A Tale of Success with which to close this thread. To the great chagrin of the host and most if not all the right wingnuts who populate this joint and the US Chamber of Commerce, the auto industry bailout has not only succeeded,but exceeded expectations.


Perhaps none was more controversial than the decision to rescue Chrysler and General Motors, using $86 billion in taxpayer funds and an expedited bankruptcy process that wiped out shareholders, brought in new executives and directors, forced creditors to take a financial haircut, closed dealerships and factories and imposed painful cuts in wages and benefits on unionized workers. It was an extraordinary and heavy-handed government intervention into the market economy that left the Treasury owning a majority of both companies. As one participant recalls, public opinion was divided among those who believed that the companies should have been allowed to die, those who believed they would never survive bankruptcy and those who believed the government would inevitably screw things up. Among the most vocal skeptics: the Chamber's Donohue.

A year!!! later, the auto bailout is an unqualified success. The government used its leverage to force the companies to make the painful changes they should have made years before, and then backed off and let the companies run themselves without any noticeable interference.

The results, which President Obama will tout on a visit to Michigan on Friday: For the first time since 2004, GM and Chrysler, along with Ford, all reported operating profits in their U.S. businesses last quarter. The domestic auto industry added 55,000 jobs last year, ending a decade-long string of declines. Auto sector exports are up 57 percent so far this year and, thanks largely to new government regulations, the industry is moving quickly to introduce more fuel-efficient vehicles. Most surprising of all, GM and Chrysler have already repaid more than $8 billion in government loans, while GM is preparing for an initial stock offering later this year that would allow the government to recoup most, if not all, of its investment.

There was a time, not long ago, when real business leaders encouraged these kind of public-private partnerships.



07/30/10 @ 09:44

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